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this is another episode of UFO Quran I'm

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Ben and I'm Joe and this is where we

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talk about UFOs aliens and all things we

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depa so twenty-eight a wine spring it's

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it's a very important episode for me

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number 28 is very symbolic Oh

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because 28 is also the year I lost my

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virginity whoa dude 1928 no no I was 28

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years old oh dude hell yeah

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I was born on June 28 I've stood so

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significant for both of us yeah man I'm

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just kidding yeah you too man I've been

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I'm just joking I've been slamming that

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ham a long time but like really hams

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real ham like I slam hams on the

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driveway man so Ryan sprang today do

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don't you talked about this so excite

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well I mean this is after the fact I'm

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so excited for you people to hear this

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switch like well I'm excited for it

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before the fact I I am also excited for

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the in the episode and also furthermore

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had also talking to him yes dude so what

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have you got on uh on the agenda today

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for the Facebook thing oh yeah dude we

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got so much stuff on the Facebook we're

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gonna have to go through yeah if you're

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not on our group I'm a Facebook group

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check out UFO garage podcast group join

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the conversation post some stuff you'd

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find stuff something on YouTube or an

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image post it and see what people say

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yeah this one is called this one's

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awesome from Chris the oh five three the

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memoirs of Jack Carroll part one did

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it's so awesome that was pretty dope

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such an awesome story that was really

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awesome I can't wait for part two

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I know a chris is part two uh is it is

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it already done

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or is it like you're just waiting to put

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it out or like he's still gotta talk to

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him or or what because that was pretty

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sick I enjoyed that one yeah that was

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pretty dope that was pretty dope yeah I

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didn't realize that he was the one that

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he that did the interview whoo right

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great

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here's a nice experience or interview I

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did recently yeah yeah I didn't know

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that he was the one that interviewed him

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uh-huh

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that's sick yeah yeah yeah this is uh

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that's his podcast right there oh dude

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well yeah cuz then he also did like cast

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he also did the the live or he did the

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podcast with his friend from alien Colin

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I think too and then recently he did how

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was it a Bigfoot one I think I can't I

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can't remember so I can't remember but

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yeah dude I enjoy it

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conspire a theory is the name of the

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podcast mm-hmm that's awesome so check

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it out y'all it's really good yeah I

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don't want to ruin the story but man

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it's sick Hey yeah his experience her

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story was was pretty awesome yeah

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what else we get that snake thing that

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rattlesnake thing uh-huh timber rattlers

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yeah it was pretty crazy with the being

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like sweeping up the room uh-huh

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in a medical room right yeah well you

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know I can't really touch you am I done

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he's like well you know you got some

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stuff you got to do it sounded like like

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one of those tertiary actors in a like

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an FBI show where they go and like

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interview people at their jobs and they

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keep doing their jobs is like the FBI is

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interviewing like put down the broom

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where he's holding a box and just moving

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boxes like oh the police are talking to

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you yeah Melinda Leslie last week dude

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yeah do you double circ that was pretty

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sick no that was a good one yeah man

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yeah that was that was really in-depth

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photography touch-up that was

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immediately yeah hosted it ensures that

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watch this yeah I couldn't even figure

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maybe there's I'll go a look at the

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tutorial maybe we just send all of our

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stuff to on the hound reverse and then

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right never have her doctor it up for us

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it's pretty sick oh it looks like so the

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a walk and I came back and then it was

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yeah and then coming here it was taken

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down creepy looks like posted a new link

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but you you must have clicked on the

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video from Facebook I wonder I did it

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yeah that was December 8 today it was

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oh it's just reloaded to fix audio

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problems oh alright no conspiracy you

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know what I still think the FBI did yeah

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do you mean well now we're gonna have to

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go back and watch the whole thing yeah

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so so we were gonna talk about it but

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they were like ah [\h__\h] it got taken down

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we're like it's Piercy and then we were

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like well let's talk about the

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conspiracy and then now I just got

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reloaded so now I don't have anything to

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say yeah well well damn we'd you know

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it's it's still cool we're gonna have to

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yeah I want to watch it and yeah so

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we'll be prepared for next week's

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UFO garage podcast yeah well uh man this

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interview at the Rhine sprague awesome

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so stoked for you guys to hear it what

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do you say we get into it let's get into

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it dude well what's up Brian thanks for

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being on the UFO garage podcast and I

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dude my pleasure guys hey listen I've

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and in the past couple months or so when

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I heard about you guys so I'm super

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honored to be here to be completely

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honest so thank you thank you awesome

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man thanks a lot yeah we uh we uh we

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thoroughly enjoy your show as well man

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yes it's a it's it's a blast it gets me

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through my workday you know what I'm

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that's what podcasts are for let's be

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absolutely well hey man I guess just for

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maybe some of our listeners who may not

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be too familiar with you let them know

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you know who you are what you do brother

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um I I'm a UFO researcher journalist

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podcast host author blah blah blah sort

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of done it all in the UFO field um ever

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topic and taking out books at the

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library on UFOs and you know Loch Ness

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monster Bigfoot all that's all that fun

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stuff and it kind of just followed me

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Syracuse New York you know even so much

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about a UFO sighting he had over the

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Pacific Oceans I started started pretty

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young I was the first person he ever

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told about this and kind of the last two

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down his story so I really think it was

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meant to be and that that kind of

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propelled me forward to keep doing this

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whole UFO journalism thing and just

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going around meeting people talking to

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people and hearing their incredible

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stories about UFOs that's awesome yeah

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that's super cool I want to hear only

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hear the story man oh my story yeah yeah

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yeah oh yeah yeah tell us about your

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experience you'd like run us through

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from the beginning to the end I I'm sort

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of at this point got a Cliff Notes

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version so I won't uh I won't keep you

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too long with it um so yeah this

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happened in the summer of 1995 I was on

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river that separates Canada from the US

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right near New York and I was fishing

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one night by myself outside I had my

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discman with me so that brings it back

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to the mid nineties and yeah yeah that

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brings me even back to the 90s even more

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nice so I'm listening to like basket

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case or one of the songs on there and it

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started getting dark so I'm like all

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night and I'm not real in my line in and

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I could see these three white lights in

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the water and you know I kind of bend

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down on the dock the dock was right next

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to our motel so I could like see inside

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to our room and I'm looking down into

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the water I'm seeing what are these

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lights coming from and you know

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naturally I look up and realize it's a

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reflection so I look up and I see three

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white lights in the triangular formation

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just kind of hover in there and no

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structure I didn't see like a machine or

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you know windows nothing like that but

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there was like this other red ball in

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the middle very hazy and it just kind of

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hung there this triangular formation and

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I couldn't get any noise out I tried to

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yell into my dad because I could

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literally like see him in the hotel room

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the motel room there and I couldn't

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nothing I couldn't move I couldn't

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scream I couldn't do anything

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and I just stared up at it man and then

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it just it started to float over the

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water I finally get a little like

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twelve-year-old squeal out and my dad

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comes outside and as he's coming out he

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actually sees this thing with me and we

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both watched it as it floated across the

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river headed towards Canada and

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disappeared out of sight so so there I

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don't know

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I knew it yeah they're either Canadians

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or they're trying to cross the border

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without you know when there's a legal

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fireworks I don't know they're good note

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you know over there they're not of age

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to drink yet so they're going to get

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some beer get you drink in a younger age

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I don't know I don't know I think that's

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it that's a good point I know a lot of

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my friends went to colleges in Canada

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because they knew they could drink

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younger so smart smart dudes dude yeah I

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mean I mean that's it's crazy

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you know like how how just seeing

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something in the sky briefly can

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completely kind of change the trajectory

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of the rest of your life you know like

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even as a little kid or even as an older

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person like just something so like I

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wouldn't say small right because I mean

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it definitely changes your like it

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changes you a little bit you know these

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experiences that happen and and man like

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you know me and Ben you know out in

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Sedona

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you know we witnessed you know a little

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something and dude I mean it really does

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like something inside you just kind of

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like clicks you know it did definitely

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changes a little something inside of you

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that's a good way puttin it clicks it

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kind of turns you turns a switch on I

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mean I'm gonna be honest guys I was like

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an athlete like baseball was my life

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when I was younger you know baseball

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girls and rock music that's about it and

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then this goddamn UFO thing just dropped

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in my lap and it did it changed the

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whole course of my life I'm a I'm what

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some consider like a professional UFO

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researcher not that that's an actual

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thing but that's what a lot of people

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consider me and I'm like where the hell

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did this come from this you turn but I I

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think that's kind of how it is and I

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mean being out in Sedona you guys must

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hear and see so many stories of things I

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can't even imagine

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no dude we've we've heard some crazy

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stuff out there in Sedona man I mean

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have you ever been out there before I

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have not I've only been to Tempe for a

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UFO

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I'm French so that's a spot as close as

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I come bro if you ever get a chance you

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need to go to Sedona I mean I mean it is

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not only is it gorgeous but dude I mean

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the energy in that area is is incredible

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man like it's it's such a good time you

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it's one of those places you could

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literally go just sit out on rock and do

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absolutely nothing and have one of the

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best times of your life yeah yeah and I

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mean some of the most conventional

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skeptical people I know have gone out

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there and you know beyond seeing a UFO

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themselves they do say the same thing

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there's something about it so there's

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got to be something to it guys I don't

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know you might you might be where the

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portal is that all these things are

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coming in and out of that's right I have

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a couple friends out there we had

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Melinda Lesley on last week and you know

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a couple weeks before that one of our

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other friends Jocelyn who lives out

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there and she lives right behind

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Cathedral Rock and supposedly during the

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you know the Rendlesham case right you

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know how supposedly he got this download

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of information and it was like binary

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code and stuff like that so you know

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like it turned out to be like ley lines

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and like points on the earth and stuff

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like that

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apparently Sedona was was was one of the

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the points that that was you know that

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was in there and yes you know apparently

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that this is that portal is right there

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above Cathedral Rock and is right in her

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backyard so she that knows yet she takes

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photos like all the time and she's got

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incredible photos just of stuff she's

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like that's what we do we just sit

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outside and take pictures all the time

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because a lot of times you can't see

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certain things and then you develop

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these photos and they're all over the

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place

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oh absolutely that I mean a quick story

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about Rendlesham them the gentleman

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you're talking about Jim Penniston I've

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spoken to him on several occasions and

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the whole binary code thing I know he

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just came out with a new book all about

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deciphering those codes so I definitely

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suggest people check that out but um

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yeah some of these ley lines he found

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and the coordinates were incredible and

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I actually think I know your

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talking about joseline I've spoken to

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her on several occasions - and what I

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what I love about her is she's out there

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just experiencing it she's not you know

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come one come all start a mission come

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see the come see the portable so I think

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that's amazing and I'm so happy you

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brought up Rendlesham when when I'm not

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doing UFOs I'm actually a playwright

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here in New York City and I actually one

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of the first plays I wrote when I moved

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here was about the Rendlesham UFO

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encounter oh yeah I've been working on

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it for about eight years now and I'm

373
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nowhere near being done I don't think so

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you're gonna you're gonna like try and

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make like a little like a film out of it

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or like maybe like a live Broadway play

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out of trying man so I work on Broadway

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here so I've definitely got some

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connections I I just try to slip some

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scripts to some producers every now and

381
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again and it really perks their ears so

382
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when they hear it's about a UFO case

383
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they're like what the hell we've never

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seen UFOs on Broadway so um exactly

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that's all say that would be super

386
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interesting to see really would yeah so

387
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it's been um it's been interesting yeah

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yes dude that's awesome man so dude I

389
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mean you know like your uh I mean I love

390
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your podcast dude I mean I think it's

391
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it's uh it's kind of like the you know

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the need to have Diet kind of to you

393
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know the UFO community and just you know

394
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people listening to it you bring a lot

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of interesting guests on you have you

396
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know a lot of you know facts and things

397
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like that you know like our show is kind

398
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of like the dr. pepper of like UFO

399
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community you know what I'm saying like

400
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it may not be important to the diet but

401
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I mean you know it's nice to have a

402
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little sweets every now and then bro you

403
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know are you kidding me man I literally

404
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moments before we got on got me some

405
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chicken and broccoli and my local

406
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Chinese place than a dr. pepper so he's

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a necessity it is a necessity I will

408
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send you a picture I'm not kidding I

409
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have one sitting in my lap right now and

410
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I'm a huge I me being from Texas I mean

411
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that's it's kind of what we drink you

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know

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oh my kid over sucks we are here in the

414
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York we're big on Pepsi because Pepsi

415
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Cola is like their headquarters is here

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in New York so you can't even find

417
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freaking coca-cola anywhere here it's

418
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worth like living in this weird Pepsi

419
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Oasis and it's disgusting tastes like

420
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flat coke to me though for some reason

421
00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:45,000
Pepsi is kind of good with Taco Bell I

422
00:17:48,860 --> 00:17:46,650
think it's because they both taste like

423
00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:48,870
[\h__\h] that like a compliments you notice

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it puts [\h__\h] on [\h__\h] and call it a day

425
00:18:03,140 --> 00:17:57,620
that's right dude that's right

426
00:18:07,310 --> 00:18:03,150
there's the title of your episode don't

427
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drink Pepsi yeah that's awesome dude

428
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:10,620
that's awesome so I so dude like through

429
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listened to your show right you know I

430
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noticed that you know I you know you

431
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said that you loved you know fire in the

432
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sky and you know you're friends with

433
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Travis dude like when I saw that movie

434
00:18:25,180 --> 00:18:24,360
when I was a kid that was it I was

435
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hooked

436
00:18:31,070 --> 00:18:28,590
really yeah oh man I I remember the

437
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first time I saw it it was um there's

438
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either like Showtime or HBO one of those

439
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like pay you know pay cable things and

440
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we weren't we didn't really get the

441
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station so it was like that fuzzy thing

442
00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:40,740
you know when you're trying to watch

443
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Paul trying to watch porn when you're

444
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like 13 and look through the phase but

445
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for me it was yeah exactly but for me it

446
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was [\h__\h] Travis Walton getting

447
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abducted by aliens so I had to like

448
00:19:01,159 --> 00:18:58,100
watch that through the snow on the TV oh

449
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:01,169
man that what I finally saw that movie

450
00:19:06,980 --> 00:19:04,290
dude I was the same way it just it it

451
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:06,990
did something I think to a lot of people

452
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triggered a lot of people and and told a

453
00:19:15,010 --> 00:19:12,510
story of what a lot of people didn't

454
00:19:17,390 --> 00:19:15,020
know was based on actual events so it's

455
00:19:20,210 --> 00:19:17,400
it's up there man when people come to me

456
00:19:22,159 --> 00:19:20,220
and say what abduction cases do you put

457
00:19:24,289 --> 00:19:22,169
up you know stock in because I'm gonna

458
00:19:26,659 --> 00:19:24,299
be completely honest as UFO researcher

459
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:26,669
I'm still very on the fence when it

460
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comes to the abduction phenomenon and

461
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:31,520
what it is what it represents but

462
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this is one of those walking enigmas

463
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with you know multiple witnesses who saw

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it happen who took lie-detector tests

465
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and passed with flying colors that this

466
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[\h__\h] happened and I can't take that away

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from them

468
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I can't and I will tell you this too

469
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meeting the guys so many times it

470
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doesn't look like he's aged today in

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like 50 years it's crazy

472
00:20:01,300 --> 00:19:58,160
Israel Ladykiller like yeah that guy's

473
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got a good hairline and mustache he's

474
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always got laid always got ladies around

475
00:20:11,170 --> 00:20:07,280
him too so you know yeah I guess that's

476
00:20:13,690 --> 00:20:11,180
the key yep guitar whether we saw last

477
00:20:15,220 --> 00:20:13,700
time that we were at the UFO Congress

478
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out in Phoenix a couple of months so

479
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perfect yeah that's where we got to meet

480
00:20:23,170 --> 00:20:20,000
him he's a pretty awesome dude yeah yeah

481
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:23,180
man so how do you like I have like a

482
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real hard problem I think with like I

483
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don't know separating separating the

484
00:20:36,670 --> 00:20:34,400
aliens with the UFO you know what I'm

485
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saying because I've kind of I feel like

486
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man like yes there is probably some

487
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stuff that you know maybe isn't piloted

488
00:20:47,950 --> 00:20:45,650
by anything but at the same time like

489
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when you hear cases like like Travis's

490
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and with all these multiple witnesses

491
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saying that you know yeah we saw this

492
00:20:58,330 --> 00:20:54,740
thing right and then and then Travis is

493
00:21:00,910 --> 00:20:58,340
like yeah I was in this thing and then I

494
00:21:05,230 --> 00:21:00,920
saw these beings there too like do you

495
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:05,240
do you separate the two or can you or

496
00:21:09,850 --> 00:21:07,760
you know what I'm saying yeah absolutely

497
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:09,860
man I mean that's half the struggle of

498
00:21:16,060 --> 00:21:12,650
being a UFO researcher is I study UFOs

499
00:21:19,210 --> 00:21:16,070
I'm not an alien tala gist I'm not like

500
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:19,220
a what would you call it a bio chemist

501
00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:21,410
nothing like that astrobiology forget

502
00:21:27,310 --> 00:21:25,070
about it math is not my thing but you

503
00:21:30,220 --> 00:21:27,320
know you give me a solid UFO case to go

504
00:21:32,530 --> 00:21:30,230
investigate and and I'll do it so yeah

505
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:32,540
it's super tough to separate the UFO

506
00:21:37,210 --> 00:21:35,210
from extraterrestrial anytime you go to

507
00:21:38,590 --> 00:21:37,220
the mass media or you're getting

508
00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:38,600
interviewed about this stuff they always

509
00:21:43,150 --> 00:21:40,910
say so you know what are the aliens up

510
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:43,160
to and I'll say I don't know I have

511
00:21:47,379 --> 00:21:44,570
absolutely no idea

512
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:47,389
I can tell you as these 25 people saw a

513
00:21:53,919 --> 00:21:50,210
boomerang shaped craft in 1997 over

514
00:21:56,799 --> 00:21:53,929
Phoenix Arizona so I mean we don't know

515
00:21:59,049 --> 00:21:56,809
what they are and we can't even say that

516
00:22:02,230 --> 00:21:59,059
any of these UFOs are directly connected

517
00:22:04,389 --> 00:22:02,240
to one another I mean it could be ten

518
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:04,399
different reasons for these things a

519
00:22:08,860 --> 00:22:06,080
million different reasons and we're

520
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:08,870
we're still I think just scratching the

521
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:11,330
surface of that so when it comes to et I

522
00:22:16,659 --> 00:22:14,330
think that's one tiny tiny possibility

523
00:22:19,690 --> 00:22:16,669
of what we could be dealing with yeah

524
00:22:22,090 --> 00:22:19,700
yeah yeah so it man like I mean it could

525
00:22:23,980 --> 00:22:22,100
be like you know you have ufology on one

526
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:23,990
hand and then like we need to kind of

527
00:22:29,950 --> 00:22:26,690
like start alien ology like on the other

528
00:22:34,029 --> 00:22:29,960
hand you know totally yeah and I mean

529
00:22:36,159 --> 00:22:34,039
it's I fall victim to it too I mean I'm

530
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:36,169
always posting [\h__\h] about little green

531
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:38,450
men and in the greys and this and that

532
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:41,210
but I mean when it becomes such a part

533
00:22:47,019 --> 00:22:44,570
of pop culture and just like the mostly

534
00:22:49,509 --> 00:22:47,029
the American zeitgeist I'd say like it's

535
00:22:53,139 --> 00:22:49,519
tough it's tough because I try to tell

536
00:22:55,570 --> 00:22:53,149
people yeah like oh I'll draw an alien

537
00:22:59,860 --> 00:22:55,580
on that for you if you want or like I

538
00:23:02,409 --> 00:22:59,870
have a ton of alien swag all over all

539
00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:02,419
the time but at the core of it I want to

540
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:06,110
know what UFOs are and if there's an

541
00:23:11,710 --> 00:23:08,210
intelligence behind them and what do

542
00:23:14,110 --> 00:23:11,720
they want whatever it is that is so yeah

543
00:23:15,820 --> 00:23:14,120
I don't know do you do you think

544
00:23:18,460 --> 00:23:15,830
personally that our government will ever

545
00:23:20,590 --> 00:23:18,470
come out and truly do a disclosure like

546
00:23:25,889 --> 00:23:20,600
hey do you think that'll ever happen

547
00:23:29,259 --> 00:23:25,899
[\h__\h] you know this are you kidding me I

548
00:23:30,909 --> 00:23:29,269
apologize I I get very passionate with

549
00:23:33,009 --> 00:23:30,919
that question because look I mean

550
00:23:34,869 --> 00:23:33,019
they've been lying to us for so long

551
00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:34,879
anyways we thought Project Blue Book was

552
00:23:39,549 --> 00:23:36,950
the end of the government investigating

553
00:23:42,399 --> 00:23:39,559
UFOs come to find out what two years ago

554
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:42,409
secret Pentagon UFO programs so I mean

555
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:44,960
yeah they're always gonna be they're

556
00:23:50,889 --> 00:23:47,090
always gonna be deceitful they're always

557
00:23:53,049 --> 00:23:50,899
going to to bend it whichever way they

558
00:23:55,139 --> 00:23:53,059
want and also guys I always tell people

559
00:23:58,799 --> 00:23:55,149
this the government is dumbest [\h__\h]

560
00:24:02,310 --> 00:23:58,809
like they are they I don't think they

561
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:02,320
are capable of this huge huge cover-up

562
00:24:06,810 --> 00:24:04,450
that everyone thinks they are everyone

563
00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:06,820
has their own job within government that

564
00:24:11,549 --> 00:24:08,769
dude over here has no idea what the girl

565
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:11,559
over here is doing so like I don't think

566
00:24:15,899 --> 00:24:14,289
that they could ever disclose because

567
00:24:18,509 --> 00:24:15,909
honestly I don't think they know what

568
00:24:21,509 --> 00:24:18,519
the [\h__\h] is going on either but I always

569
00:24:24,749 --> 00:24:21,519
tell people it's not what the government

570
00:24:26,489 --> 00:24:24,759
knows or doesn't know it's that they can

571
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:26,499
control the information that gets out to

572
00:24:30,570 --> 00:24:28,570
us so you just got to be careful what

573
00:24:33,779 --> 00:24:30,580
you what you're hearing all the time I

574
00:24:36,539 --> 00:24:33,789
mean look I think this whole Tom DeLonge

575
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:36,549
to the stars thing is awesome but we've

576
00:24:40,529 --> 00:24:38,320
got to remember that's one narrative

577
00:24:42,869 --> 00:24:40,539
that's one lens to look at the UFO

578
00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:42,879
phenomenon through and with them it's a

579
00:24:48,060 --> 00:24:46,089
threat yeah it is a threat in the

580
00:24:50,219 --> 00:24:48,070
military loves here in that [\h__\h] because

581
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:50,229
then you're gonna get funding for it so

582
00:24:56,190 --> 00:24:53,200
absolutely it's tough it's tough because

583
00:24:57,629 --> 00:24:56,200
I do not think UFOs are as big of a

584
00:24:59,219 --> 00:24:57,639
threat as people think I think they

585
00:25:03,239 --> 00:24:59,229
could actually help us a lot more than

586
00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:03,249
hurt us whatever they may be so to to

587
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:04,960
sort of circle back to your question do

588
00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:06,129
I think the government will disclose

589
00:25:10,019 --> 00:25:08,169
know I think whatever's behind this

590
00:25:13,409 --> 00:25:10,029
stuff is gonna disclose when they're

591
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:13,419
damn ready yeah I think it's it's way

592
00:25:17,729 --> 00:25:15,369
bigger than we can possibly imagine and

593
00:25:21,419 --> 00:25:17,739
there's probably a reason for it but

594
00:25:24,060 --> 00:25:21,429
again like you said like I feel like the

595
00:25:26,219 --> 00:25:24,070
not all the government branches do know

596
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:26,229
what the what the story is and maybe

597
00:25:31,129 --> 00:25:28,570
maybe they just know half of it yeah

598
00:25:34,349 --> 00:25:31,139
dude I'm never gonna agree on one I

599
00:25:36,029 --> 00:25:34,359
don't think no I think they know like

600
00:25:37,709 --> 00:25:36,039
they all will probably just know as much

601
00:25:40,169 --> 00:25:37,719
as we do the only difference is maybe

602
00:25:42,029 --> 00:25:40,179
they have some files right and maybe

603
00:25:43,979 --> 00:25:42,039
like little pieces of like some crash

604
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:43,989
it's really like the only thing I feel

605
00:25:49,589 --> 00:25:46,809
like separates them from you know from

606
00:25:52,649 --> 00:25:49,599
from us you know and and and yeah I mean

607
00:25:54,629 --> 00:25:52,659
they may know like a couple of like deep

608
00:25:56,999 --> 00:25:54,639
secrets but other than that dude I mean

609
00:26:00,329 --> 00:25:57,009
they probably don't know [\h__\h] either

610
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:00,339
right I have to agree yeah I think and

611
00:26:05,020 --> 00:26:02,769
again it's all spin and like they can

612
00:26:07,030 --> 00:26:05,030
control the information

613
00:26:11,020 --> 00:26:07,040
when they just flat out deny that it

614
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:11,030
exists so I I think just be careful be

615
00:26:16,090 --> 00:26:14,090
careful who you listen to and what you

616
00:26:17,860 --> 00:26:16,100
put stock in but just do your own work

617
00:26:19,150 --> 00:26:17,870
that's what I tell people don't trust

618
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:19,160
what the government's gonna tell you

619
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:22,010
about UFOs yeah

620
00:26:27,580 --> 00:26:24,650
talk to like that dude at the bar or

621
00:26:29,650 --> 00:26:27,590
like the police officer that you know

622
00:26:31,930 --> 00:26:29,660
goes to your coffee shop be like hey

623
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:31,940
anyone ever report a UFO to you I want

624
00:26:35,230 --> 00:26:33,200
to hear about it like those are the

625
00:26:37,870 --> 00:26:35,240
people I want to hear from I don't care

626
00:26:41,890 --> 00:26:37,880
about Louis Elizondo I don't care about

627
00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:41,900
like you know some ex-cia agent tell me

628
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:44,180
about it I want to hear from like the

629
00:26:49,630 --> 00:26:46,130
person whose life was changed by an

630
00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:49,640
event and how it affects exactly no I am

631
00:26:53,260 --> 00:26:51,320
all about the people having these

632
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:53,270
experiences that's that's what it comes

633
00:26:58,180 --> 00:26:56,240
down to for me because like you guys it

634
00:26:59,950 --> 00:26:58,190
changed me like whatever I saw I don't

635
00:27:02,500 --> 00:26:59,960
care what it was it changed the entire

636
00:27:04,330 --> 00:27:02,510
path of my life and I'm very thankful

637
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:04,340
for that I've made incredible friends

638
00:27:10,090 --> 00:27:06,650
and colleagues through the UFO topic and

639
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:10,100
it's made me a very understanding and

640
00:27:14,530 --> 00:27:13,250
empathetic person and I think we need

641
00:27:17,950 --> 00:27:14,540
that in the world right now more than

642
00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:17,960
ever yeah do it absolutely yeah and you

643
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:19,910
know like I man you know me I didn't

644
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:21,290
talk about this on the show a lot to

645
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:24,290
like you know I I you know I I agree

646
00:27:29,530 --> 00:27:27,410
like it is kind of cool like what the to

647
00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:29,540
the Stars Academy is kind of doing but

648
00:27:33,580 --> 00:27:31,790
total same time like man we we have to

649
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:33,590
like we have to be really really careful

650
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,110
with that too because it's you know you

651
00:27:40,150 --> 00:27:38,000
you look at all these people involved

652
00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:40,160
and I mean you got these guys that were

653
00:27:45,070 --> 00:27:43,190
part of the aviary groove yeah you know

654
00:27:46,930 --> 00:27:45,080
the working group part of it you know

655
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:46,940
like all these different groups you know

656
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:49,760
that were purposely like set out in the

657
00:27:53,980 --> 00:27:52,640
UFO community - like discredit and to

658
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:53,990
disprove and make people look like

659
00:27:58,030 --> 00:27:56,330
quacks and now we're supposed to like

660
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:58,040
sit back and be like oh yeah they're

661
00:28:00,970 --> 00:27:59,600
telling us all this stuff like yeah I

662
00:28:03,580 --> 00:28:00,980
totally believe it because it's the

663
00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:03,590
government you know it doesn't any sense

664
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:05,870
whatsoever like how can you say for all

665
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:08,570
these years like don't trust the

666
00:28:11,770 --> 00:28:10,370
government and then now like they say

667
00:28:13,390 --> 00:28:11,780
some stuff and everybody's like oh yeah

668
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:13,400
it's totally true the government said it

669
00:28:17,050 --> 00:28:15,050
you know what I'm saying yeah yeah

670
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:17,060
that's such a good point everyone has

671
00:28:20,639 --> 00:28:18,320
their own truth

672
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:20,649
your truth is being validated by any

673
00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:23,090
anyone you know that's when you're gonna

674
00:28:28,090 --> 00:28:25,039
say yep yep yeah yeah I'm with you now

675
00:28:30,999 --> 00:28:28,100
because it's truth is very malleable and

676
00:28:32,649 --> 00:28:31,009
I think you're right when it comes to to

677
00:28:34,570 --> 00:28:32,659
this group there's some very

678
00:28:37,060 --> 00:28:34,580
questionable people involved and you

679
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:37,070
gotta be careful and I think when you

680
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:39,679
see the people who are like just totally

681
00:28:44,409 --> 00:28:42,529
all-in with to the Stars Academy like

682
00:28:46,899 --> 00:28:44,419
there is nothing else this is the way

683
00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:46,909
it's gonna be this is disclosure they

684
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:48,799
tend to be on the younger side and

685
00:28:53,860 --> 00:28:51,740
that's because they don't know about the

686
00:28:55,539 --> 00:28:53,870
aviary they don't know about the working

687
00:28:58,570 --> 00:28:55,549
group they don't know the the track

688
00:28:59,860 --> 00:28:58,580
record of some of these people so I get

689
00:29:03,159 --> 00:28:59,870
do your research

690
00:29:05,019 --> 00:29:03,169
dig look and talk to the older guard of

691
00:29:07,659 --> 00:29:05,029
ufology for Christ's sake I'm meeting up

692
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:07,669
with my my mentor Peter Robbins

693
00:29:12,940 --> 00:29:10,970
investigative UFO guy tomorrow morning

694
00:29:15,610 --> 00:29:12,950
and every month we meet here in New York

695
00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:15,620
City and do it we just debrief for like

696
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:18,350
two hours over some some bacon and eggs

697
00:29:23,169 --> 00:29:21,200
and coffee and like I hear the stories

698
00:29:25,570 --> 00:29:23,179
he's telling me from like the 40s the

699
00:29:27,820 --> 00:29:25,580
50s the 60s because I guarantee you

700
00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:27,830
that's gonna play a big part in your

701
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:29,990
research moving forward and just

702
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:33,200
building off of that so yeah yeah for

703
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:37,250
anyone who's Pro TTS a or anti TTS a I

704
00:29:40,869 --> 00:29:38,960
really think the truth plays somewhere

705
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:40,879
in the middle so yeah yeah yeah

706
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:42,710
absolutely dude yeah you know me I've

707
00:29:46,509 --> 00:29:44,450
been like we've really liked taking some

708
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:46,519
big steps lately you know cuz I mean

709
00:29:50,139 --> 00:29:47,840
this is something that we've been into

710
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:50,149
since we were kids right and and you

711
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:53,600
know recently like we stopped so we were

712
00:29:58,269 --> 00:29:56,330
in a band together for a long time you

713
00:30:00,369 --> 00:29:58,279
know the the band kind of split up the

714
00:30:02,529 --> 00:30:00,379
drummer moved out to California you know

715
00:30:04,060 --> 00:30:02,539
for work and stuff and me and Ben just

716
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:04,070
had this free time on our hands and

717
00:30:08,049 --> 00:30:06,049
we're like dude let's let's do a podcast

718
00:30:09,820 --> 00:30:08,059
I mean we all we do is sit around and

719
00:30:12,129 --> 00:30:09,830
talk about like UFOs and stuff all the

720
00:30:14,430 --> 00:30:12,139
time anyways we might as well like you

721
00:30:17,769 --> 00:30:14,440
know make a podcast about it so you know

722
00:30:19,869 --> 00:30:17,779
we're kind of breaking out of this like

723
00:30:21,940 --> 00:30:19,879
you know just being like YouTube

724
00:30:23,950 --> 00:30:21,950
researchers yea mainstream yeah we're

725
00:30:27,129 --> 00:30:23,960
really like trying to talk to people now

726
00:30:29,529 --> 00:30:27,139
and you look through these files and

727
00:30:31,539 --> 00:30:29,539
dude like so much reading has been

728
00:30:32,050 --> 00:30:31,549
involved in like usually I'm not a big

729
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:32,060
reader

730
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:34,310
but I mean this has been awesome for us

731
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,530
you know just trying to put this puzzle

732
00:30:41,530 --> 00:30:38,720
together dude and it's it's uh it's

733
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:41,540
pretty crazy like the deeper you go like

734
00:30:47,650 --> 00:30:44,770
the more unanswered questions you have

735
00:30:50,020 --> 00:30:47,660
yeah I mean I can't tell you I'm any

736
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:50,030
closer to knowing what the hell is going

737
00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:52,010
on with UFOs I could tell you that much

738
00:30:56,380 --> 00:30:54,080
and in anyone who does tell you they

739
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:56,390
have the answers guys I don't have to

740
00:31:01,450 --> 00:30:58,880
tell you this like run away because they

741
00:31:03,850 --> 00:31:01,460
don't they absolutely do not this

742
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:03,860
phenomena eye and I say phenomena I

743
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:05,210
don't think we're dealing with one thing

744
00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:07,760
it is always gonna be a step ahead of us

745
00:31:13,090 --> 00:31:11,120
and I bet that's sobering in one way but

746
00:31:15,220 --> 00:31:13,100
at the same time like that's what keeps

747
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:15,230
me going that carrot you know being

748
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:17,570
dangled in front of you I every time I

749
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:19,760
find one answer I know it's gonna lead

750
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:21,110
to something else something else I'm

751
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:23,330
gonna change my mind go back do this

752
00:31:28,930 --> 00:31:26,240
rinse and repeat and I love that and you

753
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:28,940
know the fact that like you guys started

754
00:31:33,220 --> 00:31:30,890
a podcast like that's more than most

755
00:31:35,380 --> 00:31:33,230
people ever do they will go on YouTube

756
00:31:37,390 --> 00:31:35,390
and write some scathing comment about

757
00:31:38,620 --> 00:31:37,400
someone would be like that's [\h__\h] or

758
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:38,630
you're crazy

759
00:31:44,050 --> 00:31:41,570
instead of like actually doing some

760
00:31:46,030 --> 00:31:44,060
digging so like you know bring on the

761
00:31:48,820 --> 00:31:46,040
book spring on the documentaries bring

762
00:31:51,070 --> 00:31:48,830
on the movies it's it's great and I love

763
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:51,080
it so when I can find kindred spirits to

764
00:31:56,170 --> 00:31:53,510
like talk about this stuff with and not

765
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:56,180
get like laughed out of the room yeah

766
00:32:00,070 --> 00:31:58,490
that's awesome and that's changing to

767
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:00,080
that whole ridicule factor with these

768
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:02,810
topics you guys entered the UFO fields

769
00:32:07,630 --> 00:32:05,120
and podcast world at the right time man

770
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:07,640
because let me tell you I have lost job

771
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:09,530
interviews I've lost second dates

772
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:18,410
talking about UFOs so yeah dude yeah and

773
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:20,450
I think it's cool like you know it's

774
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:23,840
almost weird how like when somebody says

775
00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:26,960
I don't know it almost makes it more

776
00:32:31,780 --> 00:32:29,150
credible than pretending like you do

777
00:32:34,260 --> 00:32:31,790
know absolutely yeah I mean those are

778
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:34,270
the people I trust and that's that's

779
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:37,010
science that's that's you know building

780
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:39,290
off of something and knowing that like

781
00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:40,970
the minute you figure something out

782
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:43,620
there's gonna always be a next step

783
00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:46,559
and that's what I love and there's so

784
00:32:51,890 --> 00:32:49,620
what what I love about the UFO field you

785
00:32:54,430 --> 00:32:51,900
know self-proclaimed is that it does

786
00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:54,440
involve everyone whether it's you know

787
00:33:00,380 --> 00:32:58,890
religion science history academics

788
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:00,390
everything everything you could possibly

789
00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:02,490
think of soft scientists hard sciences

790
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:05,340
everyone can have a place in ufology and

791
00:33:11,150 --> 00:33:07,760
like when you can find something that

792
00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:11,160
inclusive that's amazing that we can all

793
00:33:16,460 --> 00:33:14,190
just talk about this topic like with one

794
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:16,470
another in so many different ways and

795
00:33:21,890 --> 00:33:20,010
you know even maybe find some answers

796
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:21,900
along the way that's that's that's the

797
00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:23,850
beauty of it I think I love when I can

798
00:33:29,660 --> 00:33:26,220
like open my email and I've got like

799
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:29,670
someone saying they were brought aboard

800
00:33:33,530 --> 00:33:31,770
a craft and brought to the Pleiades and

801
00:33:36,620 --> 00:33:33,540
then the next email is from like some

802
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:36,630
nuclear physicist telling me like this

803
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:39,360
formula to how the craft work and I'm

804
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:45,450
just like what the [\h__\h] is my life it's

805
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:47,730
amazing and I know you guys probably get

806
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:49,710
those kind of emails and stuff too when

807
00:33:54,740 --> 00:33:52,559
when when people start paying attention

808
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:54,750
to you and put stock in what you have to

809
00:33:59,720 --> 00:33:57,450
say that's a big responsibility so I

810
00:34:01,580 --> 00:33:59,730
always tell people like I'm not gonna

811
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:01,590
have answers for you but I will take

812
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:04,320
your story down oh I will hash it out

813
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,720
with you but I am never gonna tell you

814
00:34:12,379 --> 00:34:08,639
what you saw or did not see because I

815
00:34:14,659 --> 00:34:12,389
was not there yeah it's a good way of

816
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,669
looking at it to you yeah and and and

817
00:34:19,010 --> 00:34:16,560
getting emails like stories written tea

818
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:19,020
I was I'm just curious I mean you don't

819
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:20,310
have to tell the whole story but what

820
00:34:25,070 --> 00:34:22,530
what's your like crazy story that you

821
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:25,080
heard not crazy but you know out there I

822
00:34:28,940 --> 00:34:26,760
mean that one sounded pretty interesting

823
00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:28,950
about somebody go to the Pleiades oh

824
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:33,149
yeah I mean it really runs the gamut I

825
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:35,610
get a I'm probably a daily basis at

826
00:34:40,700 --> 00:34:37,770
least like a few emails about a UFO

827
00:34:42,619 --> 00:34:40,710
sighting or a contact experience and I

828
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:42,629
try to keep them all on the same level

829
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:45,510
of like integrity and empathy and just

830
00:34:50,180 --> 00:34:47,129
alright tell me your story I'm not gonna

831
00:34:52,099 --> 00:34:50,190
judge you so let me just hear it and I

832
00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:52,109
mean there's one I always kind of go

833
00:34:56,430 --> 00:34:55,020
back to that had multiple people

834
00:34:58,740 --> 00:34:56,440
involved in that right there

835
00:35:02,099 --> 00:34:58,750
I'm like okay so this isn't like one

836
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:02,109
person's subjective experience like

837
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:03,609
there were more than one person involved

838
00:35:09,089 --> 00:35:06,490
with this and this happened I think back

839
00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:09,099
in the early 2000s this woman sent me an

840
00:35:16,890 --> 00:35:13,560
email out in Michigan and she she saw a

841
00:35:18,569 --> 00:35:16,900
triangular UFO over her property she's

842
00:35:20,010 --> 00:35:18,579
going out to walk her dogs at night and

843
00:35:22,319 --> 00:35:20,020
this thing was just hovering above her

844
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:22,329
house and her dogs like wouldn't leave

845
00:35:26,730 --> 00:35:24,010
the porch like they were scared

846
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:26,740
petrified of what it was so she's like

847
00:35:32,069 --> 00:35:29,770
holy [\h__\h] look what what is going on

848
00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:32,079
here so she starts yelling for a

849
00:35:36,180 --> 00:35:34,180
daughter inside she's like you know go

850
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:36,190
come on here come see this bring a

851
00:35:41,220 --> 00:35:38,410
camera bring a camera so her daughter

852
00:35:43,859 --> 00:35:41,230
comes out and they're both looking up at

853
00:35:48,750 --> 00:35:43,869
this UFO is trying to give their UFO and

854
00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:48,760
the mom is like super like chill about

855
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,190
it if she's feeling euphoric and she

856
00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:53,200
said it was silent and beautiful and

857
00:35:57,930 --> 00:35:55,119
then she's looking over at her daughter

858
00:36:00,329 --> 00:35:57,940
who's like bent on the ground covering

859
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:00,339
her ears and saying the thing is so loud

860
00:36:06,809 --> 00:36:03,130
I can't even I can't hear anything it's

861
00:36:09,089 --> 00:36:06,819
just like I'm so scared so you have the

862
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:09,099
mother and daughter having a completely

863
00:36:12,329 --> 00:36:10,720
different perception of what was going

864
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:12,339
on in that moment looking at the same

865
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:15,250
thing and that really really struck me

866
00:36:21,329 --> 00:36:18,250
I'm like what the hell is going on here

867
00:36:24,359 --> 00:36:21,339
these Kong crafts can like literally

868
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:24,369
alter people's perceptions or or kind of

869
00:36:29,849 --> 00:36:26,770
like you know just be perceived

870
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:29,859
completely different they did they did

871
00:36:35,339 --> 00:36:31,300
get some pictures of it by the way I

872
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:35,349
should add that yeah yeah so I'll try to

873
00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:37,119
send those to you guys after we talk

874
00:36:41,069 --> 00:36:37,540
here

875
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:41,079
that'd be already pretty freakin crazy

876
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:42,609
I'm not gonna lie when she sent me the

877
00:36:45,809 --> 00:36:44,890
photos I was like okay I got something

878
00:36:49,650 --> 00:36:45,819
to work with here

879
00:36:52,530 --> 00:36:49,660
so okay do you see what yeah there's

880
00:36:54,450 --> 00:36:52,540
something to the them like emitting some

881
00:36:55,620 --> 00:36:54,460
kind of frequency that like changes I

882
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,630
think there's there's something there

883
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:57,760
that changes the perception of the

884
00:37:02,819 --> 00:37:00,400
observer observer I think that's really

885
00:37:05,550 --> 00:37:02,829
super interesting it plays into like the

886
00:37:06,859 --> 00:37:05,560
I don't know the science aspect of it I

887
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:06,869
think it's really really interesting

888
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:10,240
yeah a lot of people have coined

889
00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:13,330
sort of the Oz factor you know like time

890
00:37:19,350 --> 00:37:16,750
slows down the air becomes like thick

891
00:37:20,850 --> 00:37:19,360
everything becomes quiet and you know I

892
00:37:23,550 --> 00:37:20,860
had another guy tell me the same thing

893
00:37:25,859 --> 00:37:23,560
like he couldn't hear anything he

894
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:25,869
couldn't see anything and I I will say

895
00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:28,570
too like when I had my experience I

896
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:31,150
don't think what I saw was alien that I

897
00:37:35,370 --> 00:37:33,010
can flat-out say that but I can't

898
00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:35,380
discount that either but I felt that

899
00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:37,750
same thing like I couldn't yell I

900
00:37:42,359 --> 00:37:39,460
couldn't do anything I was just like

901
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:42,369
frozen there so like is it adrenaline is

902
00:37:48,090 --> 00:37:45,040
it fear or in are these things actually

903
00:37:50,940 --> 00:37:48,100
somehow physiologically controlling us a

904
00:37:52,859 --> 00:37:50,950
I don't know I don't know there's my

905
00:37:54,210 --> 00:37:52,869
answer and that's why you should that's

906
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:54,220
why you should trust me cuz I say I

907
00:38:00,750 --> 00:37:57,490
don't know yeah man I know like when I

908
00:38:02,910 --> 00:38:00,760
think back on you know when when me and

909
00:38:04,890 --> 00:38:02,920
Ben saw that stuff out in Sedona like I

910
00:38:07,770 --> 00:38:04,900
think back on it man and you know it's

911
00:38:10,050 --> 00:38:07,780
probably about you know 45 seconds to

912
00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:10,060
about a minutes worth of like you know

913
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:12,790
air show that they put on but man like

914
00:38:18,450 --> 00:38:15,040
when I go back and think about it like

915
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:18,460
I'm staring it at this object in the sky

916
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:21,010
and we're standing outside you know and

917
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:24,160
like I don't recall the wind blowing I

918
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:27,250
don't recall noises I don't know if it's

919
00:38:31,650 --> 00:38:29,290
just because we're so focused on like

920
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:31,660
what was happening around you know up in

921
00:38:37,170 --> 00:38:34,390
the sky that I blocked out all the other

922
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:37,180
senses but you know it's it's it is one

923
00:38:41,609 --> 00:38:38,560
of those things man it just kind of

924
00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:41,619
makes you think like whoa I think so

925
00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:43,420
yeah and I think you know it's human

926
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:47,230
nature to when like something something

927
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:49,330
out of the ordinary that's not part of

928
00:38:53,370 --> 00:38:51,609
your daily routine that isn't like you

929
00:38:56,130 --> 00:38:53,380
know the same thing you've done every

930
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:56,140
single day or looked at like it does it

931
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:57,970
changes something it like like you said

932
00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:00,400
earlier it flips that switch on and then

933
00:39:05,460 --> 00:39:03,220
like the floodgates are open I mean it's

934
00:39:07,590 --> 00:39:05,470
crazy after all these people tell me

935
00:39:09,450 --> 00:39:07,600
they've had a singular UFO event then

936
00:39:11,099 --> 00:39:09,460
they come to me months later years later

937
00:39:12,210 --> 00:39:11,109
saying stuff Mouse happened something

938
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:12,220
else happened that woman in Michigan

939
00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:16,240
dude her house became like haunted by

940
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:20,310
poltergeist after this after a UFO case

941
00:39:25,370 --> 00:39:23,370
I mean her things were flying across the

942
00:39:27,650 --> 00:39:25,380
house the the electricity was going out

943
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:27,660
she called the the electric people to

944
00:39:32,260 --> 00:39:30,510
come out and look at it they come the

945
00:39:35,390 --> 00:39:32,270
dudes like trying to fix the electricity

946
00:39:38,690 --> 00:39:35,400
huge boomerang craft comes over the

947
00:39:39,740 --> 00:39:38,700
house and he sees oh and he's like [\h__\h]

948
00:39:41,780 --> 00:39:39,750
this I'm out of here

949
00:39:44,450 --> 00:39:41,790
and he literally left and he was like

950
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:44,460
I'll send someone else I'm never coming

951
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:47,130
back here again so yeah is that is that

952
00:39:53,180 --> 00:39:49,650
the one where the the daughter saw the

953
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:53,190
hooded figure yes it is [\h__\h]

954
00:39:58,610 --> 00:39:56,610
yep yes that story's crazy the hook yeah

955
00:40:00,830 --> 00:39:58,620
that heard this one the yeah yeah how

956
00:40:03,230 --> 00:40:00,840
did figure yeah right yeah better than I

957
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:03,240
can do absolutely you've gotten anymore

958
00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:05,730
update information on that or is this

959
00:40:09,980 --> 00:40:08,550
still kind of a work yes it is a work in

960
00:40:12,590 --> 00:40:09,990
progress that's funny you mentioned that

961
00:40:15,230 --> 00:40:12,600
I was in Michigan about a month and a

962
00:40:18,380 --> 00:40:15,240
half ago at a UFO conference and that

963
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:18,390
woman was there and it was my first time

964
00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:20,010
meeting her face to face everything

965
00:40:26,060 --> 00:40:22,230
before that was like it isn't that was

966
00:40:28,460 --> 00:40:26,070
nineteen over Facebook and I got to like

967
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:28,470
hug her and talk to her I was the first

968
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:30,090
person she like shared this story with

969
00:40:35,780 --> 00:40:33,330
in in my book I wrote an entire chapter

970
00:40:37,820 --> 00:40:35,790
on her her case with her and her two

971
00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:37,830
daughters and what you're talking about

972
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:40,020
is actually the younger daughter she

973
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:42,240
wasn't part of the original UFO event

974
00:40:48,830 --> 00:40:46,530
but one night she was in bed and she got

975
00:40:50,660 --> 00:40:48,840
up to go to the bathroom and she sees

976
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:50,670
this hooded figure in the [\h__\h]

977
00:40:53,420 --> 00:40:52,710
hallway of their house and just chill in

978
00:40:55,970 --> 00:40:53,430
there

979
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:55,980
just chilling you know it's like four

980
00:40:58,940 --> 00:40:57,930
feet tall hooded figure you know no

981
00:41:02,870 --> 00:40:58,950
normal I guess

982
00:41:04,730 --> 00:41:02,880
and it starts walking towards hurry

983
00:41:06,830 --> 00:41:04,740
she's like nope nope but this is not

984
00:41:08,690 --> 00:41:06,840
happening she runs into her room gets

985
00:41:11,150 --> 00:41:08,700
under the covers puts him over her head

986
00:41:14,420 --> 00:41:11,160
and she's just like this isn't happening

987
00:41:16,970 --> 00:41:14,430
this isn't happening and that covers

988
00:41:21,490 --> 00:41:16,980
start to come down as someone's pulling

989
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:21,500
the covers down yeah and it's her mom

990
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:24,810
little suspenseful there it was her mom

991
00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:26,250
and she was like are you okay honey I

992
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:27,870
heard like some scampering in the

993
00:41:33,090 --> 00:41:31,650
hallway and she couldn't move because

994
00:41:35,340 --> 00:41:33,100
she was still petrified

995
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:35,350
and as the moms like trying to calm her

996
00:41:40,590 --> 00:41:38,050
down hooded figure is going throughout

997
00:41:44,010 --> 00:41:40,600
the room surveying the area just looking

998
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:44,020
at [\h__\h] and the daughter couldn't do

999
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:46,240
anything she was frozen and petrified

1000
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:48,730
mom finally says all right go to bed

1001
00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:51,490
good night leaves being follows the mom

1002
00:41:56,940 --> 00:41:53,670
out of the room and then boom that's it

1003
00:41:58,860 --> 00:41:56,950
whoa yeah what if they're just all

1004
00:42:00,690 --> 00:41:58,870
around us all the time and we just don't

1005
00:42:03,690 --> 00:42:00,700
know it they're just walking a picket

1006
00:42:05,850 --> 00:42:03,700
[\h__\h] up and looking at it or absolutely

1007
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:05,860
man like they they might be just as

1008
00:42:09,570 --> 00:42:07,930
confused as we are like what the hell am

1009
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:09,580
i doing a lot of people say that with

1010
00:42:13,290 --> 00:42:11,440
ghosts too like they're just as scared

1011
00:42:16,290 --> 00:42:13,300
of us as we are of them they don't know

1012
00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:16,300
why the hell you're seeing them all of a

1013
00:42:20,910 --> 00:42:18,190
sudden like maybe there was a glitch in

1014
00:42:24,090 --> 00:42:20,920
the matrix or there was you know some

1015
00:42:27,570 --> 00:42:24,100
time space warp where you did catch a

1016
00:42:28,860 --> 00:42:27,580
glimpse of someone back in 1700 freaking

1017
00:42:30,990 --> 00:42:28,870
knows man maybe that's what we're

1018
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:31,000
dealing with aliens do hey leaves are

1019
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:33,130
ghosts ghosts or aliens yeah I mean

1020
00:42:37,380 --> 00:42:35,200
that's that's crazy you know it's weird

1021
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:37,390
cuz like you always like any time you

1022
00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:39,130
hear about it you know it's like I saw

1023
00:42:46,260 --> 00:42:43,990
this being and I I ran away or like I

1024
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:46,270
hid under my covers and it always makes

1025
00:42:51,060 --> 00:42:48,490
me think like I wonder I wonder what

1026
00:42:53,340 --> 00:42:51,070
would happen if somebody was like hey

1027
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:53,350
what's up hey what are you doing over

1028
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:55,330
there and like walked towards it or like

1029
00:43:00,210 --> 00:42:58,000
ran towards it like I wonder if it would

1030
00:43:01,890 --> 00:43:00,220
haul ass out of there or like you know

1031
00:43:04,590 --> 00:43:01,900
what I'm saying like I don't know it's

1032
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:04,600
great oh man I've got I've got a quick

1033
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:08,610
story for you want this one okay yes so

1034
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:11,680
this comes from my my friend Mike

1035
00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:13,690
Cleland he's the owl guy I don't know if

1036
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:15,670
you guys heard if you know oh yeah yeah

1037
00:43:21,930 --> 00:43:18,730
okay I know him yeah yeah he compiles

1038
00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:21,940
all people's stories who somehow connect

1039
00:43:27,420 --> 00:43:25,540
towels with UFOs or aliens so he he's

1040
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:27,430
got this story of this woman who's like

1041
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:30,160
you know she's doing the dishes after

1042
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:34,240
dinner and she's a multiple abductee she

1043
00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:35,770
claimed to have been abducted surround

1044
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:38,320
her life and she's she's just doing the

1045
00:43:43,590 --> 00:43:40,510
dishes putting them away then she looks

1046
00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:43,600
out her window and a gray you know great

1047
00:43:46,540 --> 00:43:45,820
alien is staring at her in the window

1048
00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:46,550
and she

1049
00:43:51,370 --> 00:43:49,310
looks over it she's like no no not a

1050
00:43:53,350 --> 00:43:51,380
chance she's like I am NOT going with

1051
00:43:55,540 --> 00:43:53,360
you now I got too much [\h__\h] to do

1052
00:43:58,450 --> 00:43:55,550
tonight I gotta like help my daughter

1053
00:44:01,810 --> 00:43:58,460
with her homework and she literally like

1054
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:01,820
puts the dishes down opens the door goes

1055
00:44:08,830 --> 00:44:04,850
outside and she's like no no I'm not

1056
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:08,840
doing this right and the alien starts

1057
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:11,090
going literally like not telepathically

1058
00:44:17,710 --> 00:44:14,510
saying owl owl owl owl owl like it's

1059
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:17,720
trying to like scream memory itself into

1060
00:44:23,410 --> 00:44:20,090
an owl cuz a lot of abductees claim that

1061
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:23,420
yeah yeah the little [\h__\h] couldn't do

1062
00:44:29,980 --> 00:44:26,210
it it was just like failing miserably

1063
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:29,990
like so her runs away dude the gray ran

1064
00:44:35,370 --> 00:44:32,960
away hit a tree fell over and then ran

1065
00:44:37,810 --> 00:44:35,380
off into the woods and she was like wow

1066
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:37,820
she's like that was weird

1067
00:44:41,050 --> 00:44:39,770
that's never happened but okay I guess I

1068
00:44:43,780 --> 00:44:41,060
can go help my daughter with their

1069
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:43,790
homework now Jo so grace could be

1070
00:44:49,690 --> 00:44:46,490
awkward too they can be clumsy yeah

1071
00:44:50,740 --> 00:44:49,700
apparently they can [\h__\h] up yeah because

1072
00:44:53,050 --> 00:44:50,750
you always think of them as so like

1073
00:44:55,210 --> 00:44:53,060
precise and calculated but but you throw

1074
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:55,220
them off their game and and and you know

1075
00:44:58,420 --> 00:44:57,050
you you turn it around on them and

1076
00:45:01,600 --> 00:44:58,430
they're like oh [\h__\h] I don't know what

1077
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:01,610
to do with this situation did their

1078
00:45:06,460 --> 00:45:04,130
stories were like they put people back

1079
00:45:09,070 --> 00:45:06,470
in like the wrong clothes or even like

1080
00:45:10,930 --> 00:45:09,080
the wrong car this one dude was on the

1081
00:45:14,260 --> 00:45:10,940
highway and he claimed to have been

1082
00:45:16,450 --> 00:45:14,270
abducted and when he like kinda came

1083
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:16,460
back he to it he was in a different car

1084
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:18,560
looking at his own car on the highway

1085
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:20,720
with someone else in it I'm not kidding

1086
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:23,450
you know like what do you do with that I

1087
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,310
mean duh part of me wants to be like

1088
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:27,440
that that's not true like that's total

1089
00:45:32,770 --> 00:45:30,050
[\h__\h] but at the same time like these

1090
00:45:33,370 --> 00:45:32,780
are normal sane people claiming these

1091
00:45:36,910 --> 00:45:33,380
things

1092
00:45:39,790 --> 00:45:36,920
no no sense of like being fantasy prone

1093
00:45:41,770 --> 00:45:39,800
or like hallucinating or on any drugs

1094
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:41,780
nothing and they're claiming these

1095
00:45:46,810 --> 00:45:44,240
things so what do you do with that yeah

1096
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:46,820
man yeah I know that's you know and it's

1097
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:48,170
it's crazy because you know it kind of

1098
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:50,240
brings it back to the you know like well

1099
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:52,010
maybe we should have like an alien ology

1100
00:45:55,780 --> 00:45:53,810
because you know we all you know we

1101
00:45:58,510 --> 00:45:55,790
discussed the UFO aspect of this but

1102
00:46:00,220 --> 00:45:58,520
then when you you talk to people who who

1103
00:46:02,020 --> 00:46:00,230
have no interest in it who

1104
00:46:04,330 --> 00:46:02,030
don't even think about you know aliens

1105
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:04,340
or whatever you know then they have this

1106
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:06,650
experience and they all seem to like

1107
00:46:12,310 --> 00:46:10,160
kind of describe the same like certain

1108
00:46:15,130 --> 00:46:12,320
kinds of beings you know like whether

1109
00:46:18,250 --> 00:46:15,140
they be like greys or you know hooded

1110
00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:18,260
figures or whites or whatever it is like

1111
00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:21,920
they all kind of you know you know you

1112
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:23,660
you could just you know I guess chalk it

1113
00:46:26,830 --> 00:46:25,040
off to like oh what they've heard

1114
00:46:29,530 --> 00:46:26,840
stories they've read books they've seen

1115
00:46:31,660 --> 00:46:29,540
movies that's what I do that's that's

1116
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:31,670
why they describe them this way but but

1117
00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:35,119
you know like every every line of

1118
00:46:40,450 --> 00:46:37,310
[\h__\h] came from like a little kernel

1119
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:40,460
of truth yeah no that's a good point man

1120
00:46:46,750 --> 00:46:44,240
I I work under the assumption that every

1121
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:46,760
story has some sort of value yeah when

1122
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:49,250
you do hear like the same damn story ten

1123
00:46:54,820 --> 00:46:52,160
million times you know big head big

1124
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:54,830
black eyes grave like I'm like okay like

1125
00:46:59,710 --> 00:46:56,690
it's very possible you are influenced by

1126
00:47:01,630 --> 00:46:59,720
something but at the same time like is

1127
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:01,640
it chicken or egg like what came first

1128
00:47:07,930 --> 00:47:04,510
the story or the person having the the

1129
00:47:09,940 --> 00:47:07,940
same sort of experience I don't know I

1130
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:09,950
mean you trace it all the way back to

1131
00:47:14,830 --> 00:47:11,920
like the modern UFO era where like

1132
00:47:18,099 --> 00:47:14,840
Kenneth Arnold duties like nine flying

1133
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:18,109
saucers which was a misquote to begin

1134
00:47:22,510 --> 00:47:19,520
with he didn't even see saucer-shaped

1135
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,520
craft but he saw like these prescient

1136
00:47:26,830 --> 00:47:24,800
things or whatever and they miss you

1137
00:47:28,359 --> 00:47:26,840
know misheard him in the article and

1138
00:47:30,070 --> 00:47:28,369
called it flying saucers and then

1139
00:47:31,859 --> 00:47:30,080
everyone sees fine saucers after that

1140
00:47:35,410 --> 00:47:31,869
because of this article so it's like

1141
00:47:37,900 --> 00:47:35,420
were they really seen them or was it all

1142
00:47:39,730 --> 00:47:37,910
influenced by this first claim of seeing

1143
00:47:42,070 --> 00:47:39,740
he's like I don't know it blows my mind

1144
00:47:43,810 --> 00:47:42,080
and maybe it's like you said I think the

1145
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:43,820
truth really does lie somewhere in

1146
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:45,890
between and that's kind of what the

1147
00:47:50,170 --> 00:47:48,290
whole UFO field is based on two lies

1148
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:50,180
with a little bit of truth somewhere in

1149
00:47:54,609 --> 00:47:52,400
the middle yeah dude yeah and then I

1150
00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:54,619
think a lot of it to like maybe a little

1151
00:47:59,170 --> 00:47:56,510
bit of it you know I think it has to do

1152
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,180
with maybe like these people tell their

1153
00:48:04,420 --> 00:48:01,040
story and then some of the people who

1154
00:48:05,740 --> 00:48:04,430
are taking the story you know like if

1155
00:48:07,870 --> 00:48:05,750
it's just like a regular like news

1156
00:48:10,180 --> 00:48:07,880
broadcaster or something you know a lot

1157
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:10,190
of times I feel like those people don't

1158
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:11,930
give a [\h__\h] like you could literally say

1159
00:48:16,750 --> 00:48:14,000
like yes I saw a cue

1160
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:16,760
in the sky and you know it was kind of

1161
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:19,040
shifting these forms and I couldn't you

1162
00:48:22,660 --> 00:48:21,200
know make it out or whatever and then on

1163
00:48:25,180 --> 00:48:22,670
the news at night they're like they saw

1164
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:25,190
flying saucers yeah yeah and then you're

1165
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:27,890
like oh damn that dude saw saucers so

1166
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:30,290
immediately in your head you think you

1167
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:32,510
know circular saucer shape when that's

1168
00:48:38,109 --> 00:48:35,570
not what you saw at all I saw cube right

1169
00:48:40,060 --> 00:48:38,119
yeah absolutely they're there when you

1170
00:48:42,670 --> 00:48:40,070
look at the mass media there's buzzwords

1171
00:48:45,490 --> 00:48:42,680
that will get clicks and will get people

1172
00:48:47,380 --> 00:48:45,500
interested in saucers one of them and I

1173
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:47,390
mean god I can't tell you the last time

1174
00:48:53,230 --> 00:48:49,040
someone's actually like reported a

1175
00:48:56,290 --> 00:48:53,240
saucer to me it's it's everything but so

1176
00:48:57,940 --> 00:48:56,300
I don't I don't know man it's tough it

1177
00:48:59,530 --> 00:48:57,950
is tough when you're dealing with UFOs

1178
00:49:03,099 --> 00:48:59,540
in the mass media I think things are

1179
00:49:06,750 --> 00:49:03,109
changing I think a lot of news anchors

1180
00:49:09,370 --> 00:49:06,760
and you know some of these really good

1181
00:49:12,099 --> 00:49:09,380
websites are actually starting to really

1182
00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:12,109
do their homework you look at stuff like

1183
00:49:17,890 --> 00:49:15,790
vice or the drive the the military

1184
00:49:21,010 --> 00:49:17,900
website and like they're doing some

1185
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:21,020
heavy heavy reporting on UFOs and they

1186
00:49:25,660 --> 00:49:23,810
are taking down precise quotes and make

1187
00:49:28,210 --> 00:49:25,670
it sure they're not like mincing words

1188
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:28,220
with anything and I really respect that

1189
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,890
that we have people out there finally

1190
00:49:35,460 --> 00:49:32,960
taking the topic seriously getting the

1191
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:35,470
accurate information out there and

1192
00:49:39,609 --> 00:49:38,089
really making waves and following up

1193
00:49:42,130 --> 00:49:39,619
with people that's another big thing

1194
00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:42,140
with me is yeah you look on your news Oh

1195
00:49:46,089 --> 00:49:43,849
some people saw something strange in the

1196
00:49:48,310 --> 00:49:46,099
sky and then that's it you never hear

1197
00:49:49,150 --> 00:49:48,320
about anything after that like well did

1198
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:49,160
it happen again

1199
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:52,400
or like was there any sort of event that

1200
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:55,130
triggered it beforehand or like give me

1201
00:49:59,920 --> 00:49:58,010
something here guys but it was often

1202
00:50:01,540 --> 00:49:59,930
just fluff pieces in the news and I

1203
00:50:05,140 --> 00:50:01,550
think that is shifting and changing

1204
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:05,150
where the UFO topic is getting closer

1205
00:50:10,030 --> 00:50:07,130
and closer to the front page of some

1206
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:10,040
major newspapers so I'm excited to see

1207
00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:11,930
where it goes and I have to admit we

1208
00:50:18,730 --> 00:50:13,760
have Tom DeLonge to thank for that so

1209
00:50:23,950 --> 00:50:18,740
thank you Tom for a lot of songs about

1210
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:23,960
penises you know that's all good chief

1211
00:50:27,089 --> 00:50:26,000
that's that's one of those things where

1212
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:27,099
it's like okay yeah

1213
00:50:30,839 --> 00:50:28,690
I mean like there are so many people

1214
00:50:32,430 --> 00:50:30,849
with that hop on with with TTS a and

1215
00:50:34,140 --> 00:50:32,440
it's because you know they grew up with

1216
00:50:36,359 --> 00:50:34,150
blink-182 man you know and it's like

1217
00:50:39,180 --> 00:50:36,369
that's cool one of my favorite bands of

1218
00:50:41,549 --> 00:50:39,190
all time is now like you know yo mom is

1219
00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:41,559
now you know doing aliens and UFO stuff

1220
00:50:46,859 --> 00:50:44,470
you know so yeah that's that's one thing

1221
00:50:48,779 --> 00:50:46,869
they got going for him but but so I

1222
00:50:52,109 --> 00:50:48,789
guess on the on the topic of flying

1223
00:50:56,759 --> 00:50:52,119
saucers man I have to know how was it

1224
00:50:58,739 --> 00:50:56,769
interviewing Stan Freedman oh man yes so

1225
00:51:00,989 --> 00:50:58,749
that was that was a big catch for me I'm

1226
00:51:03,569 --> 00:51:00,999
not gonna lie I was nervous as [\h__\h] and

1227
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:03,579
like okay you know I've talked to a lot

1228
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:06,729
of the I guess whatever heavy hitters in

1229
00:51:11,729 --> 00:51:09,130
the field but that was one where I

1230
00:51:13,469 --> 00:51:11,739
honestly I had no idea what to ask that

1231
00:51:16,279 --> 00:51:13,479
guy he's been asked every question you

1232
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:16,289
could possibly think of and his his

1233
00:51:22,349 --> 00:51:18,729
vocabulary and the way his mind works is

1234
00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:22,359
just it's beyond me like I'm a I'm just

1235
00:51:27,380 --> 00:51:25,150
a UFO researcher who listens to pick

1236
00:51:30,539 --> 00:51:27,390
what did he do every now and again but

1237
00:51:32,190 --> 00:51:30,549
that was um episode 50 for me on my

1238
00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:32,200
podcast and I really wanted to do

1239
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:34,329
something special and around that time

1240
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:36,729
is when Stan Friedman decided he was

1241
00:51:41,309 --> 00:51:39,609
done he wanted to retire from the you

1242
00:51:42,959 --> 00:51:41,319
know the lecture circuit in the dude is

1243
00:51:45,329 --> 00:51:42,969
lectured in every country every

1244
00:51:49,380 --> 00:51:45,339
continent every city you can think of

1245
00:51:52,349 --> 00:51:49,390
every province in Canada it's insane so

1246
00:51:54,029 --> 00:51:52,359
I I spent in weeks and weeks trying to

1247
00:51:55,859 --> 00:51:54,039
compile like a list of questions asked

1248
00:51:59,069 --> 00:51:55,869
and then eventually I was just like [\h__\h]

1249
00:52:02,489 --> 00:51:59,079
it like just get him on and see what

1250
00:52:05,630 --> 00:52:02,499
happens so I call him up and he answers

1251
00:52:08,759 --> 00:52:05,640
the phone it is like hey let's do this

1252
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:08,769
just like that immediately put me at

1253
00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:11,200
ease I'm like oh my god he's he's just a

1254
00:52:16,859 --> 00:52:14,049
normal dude and he's just excited to

1255
00:52:19,979 --> 00:52:16,869
talk to me as I was to him and we

1256
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:19,989
literally just ran through 50 years of

1257
00:52:24,660 --> 00:52:23,049
his career and how he got into it what

1258
00:52:27,150 --> 00:52:24,670
he found most interesting where he

1259
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:27,160
thought it was heading and I just let

1260
00:52:32,130 --> 00:52:29,200
him talk I think when I was editing I

1261
00:52:34,769 --> 00:52:32,140
had maybe like 10 words total in like a

1262
00:52:36,690 --> 00:52:34,779
two and a half hour conversation so yeah

1263
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:36,700
I love you that was so that was a great

1264
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:38,800
one dude thank you it was

1265
00:52:43,950 --> 00:52:41,920
amazing it really if you didn't have

1266
00:52:45,090 --> 00:52:43,960
respect for him before that I don't know

1267
00:52:47,850 --> 00:52:45,100
how you could come out the other side

1268
00:52:50,820 --> 00:52:47,860
not thinking this dude changed all of

1269
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:50,830
our lives and like he paved the way he

1270
00:52:55,950 --> 00:52:53,440
was the original ufologist it's it's

1271
00:52:58,530 --> 00:52:55,960
insane to think that you know we can't

1272
00:53:00,510 --> 00:52:58,540
just call him up anymore and and we

1273
00:53:02,730 --> 00:53:00,520
won't see more books by him but I

1274
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:02,740
treasure everything he's written I

1275
00:53:06,810 --> 00:53:04,480
respect the hell out of the guy as a

1276
00:53:09,810 --> 00:53:06,820
human being first and foremost as a UFO

1277
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:09,820
researcher second and it was quite an

1278
00:53:13,410 --> 00:53:12,130
honor I have to admit man yeah that's

1279
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:13,420
gotta be awesome dude

1280
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:15,760
so I mean the closest that we ever got

1281
00:53:22,620 --> 00:53:19,450
was we we got to interview uh her name

1282
00:53:24,330 --> 00:53:22,630
was Joanna you incur right Oh kind of

1283
00:53:27,660 --> 00:53:24,340
she's the the head archivist in New

1284
00:53:28,859 --> 00:53:27,670
Brunswick the Ohio archive that Stanton

1285
00:53:31,590 --> 00:53:28,869
you know

1286
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:31,600
donated all of his stuff all his

1287
00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:33,280
research everything that was in his

1288
00:53:37,980 --> 00:53:35,950
house he donated to them and she's the

1289
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:37,990
head archivist over there and she had

1290
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:40,690
some pretty pretty awesome stories about

1291
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:44,650
it as well I can imagine yeah yeah yeah

1292
00:53:49,050 --> 00:53:46,210
she was like she was like you know

1293
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:49,060
there's so many things in his in his

1294
00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:52,330
collection like there's vials of liquid

1295
00:53:57,300 --> 00:53:55,390
and like powder like all the kinds of

1296
00:53:59,540 --> 00:53:57,310
stuff that we don't really know what to

1297
00:54:02,670 --> 00:53:59,550
do with them or like should we open them

1298
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:02,680
you know but yeah she said should we

1299
00:54:11,630 --> 00:54:07,450
smoke it yeah so in that space Weed Man

1300
00:54:14,359 --> 00:54:11,640
if anybody that's know you stand in row

1301
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:14,369
absolutely I I could see him in like

1302
00:54:21,450 --> 00:54:19,570
Carl Sagan kick him back a joiner - yeah

1303
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:21,460
I bet they did they went to college

1304
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:24,010
together right yeah yeah they debated

1305
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:26,170
together and like they had a huge

1306
00:54:31,140 --> 00:54:28,690
respect for one another so again like

1307
00:54:34,890 --> 00:54:31,150
Stanton you can say what you want about

1308
00:54:37,290 --> 00:54:34,900
the guy he was very Pro et but he was

1309
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:37,300
very well respected by his peers and

1310
00:54:41,790 --> 00:54:40,090
although he will always be remembered as

1311
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:41,800
he follow just like he was a physicist

1312
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:45,010
first and foremost and that's an amazing

1313
00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:48,010
feat and a life you know well lived in

1314
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:50,710
my opinion that's awesome dude that's

1315
00:54:54,180 --> 00:54:51,910
awesome

1316
00:54:56,190 --> 00:54:54,190
gotta follow up with Johanna cuz I mean

1317
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:56,200
she did tell us about Friedman Fridays

1318
00:55:02,609 --> 00:54:58,799
where they would go through all the

1319
00:55:04,260 --> 00:55:02,619
archives and document samples and and

1320
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:04,270
she said they do have a little piece of

1321
00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:06,970
metal that came in an envelope here's

1322
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:08,319
here's a piece from the Roswell crash

1323
00:55:11,339 --> 00:55:09,910
was it the Roswell crash yeah okay

1324
00:55:13,380 --> 00:55:11,349
that's from the Roswell yeah I don't

1325
00:55:17,549 --> 00:55:13,390
know on mysteries decoded y'all y'all

1326
00:55:19,890 --> 00:55:17,559
went out to the crash site into some

1327
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:19,900
some metal I have a sweetness to the

1328
00:55:23,549 --> 00:55:21,609
that episode when you talk about it but

1329
00:55:25,410 --> 00:55:23,559
you know maybe for our viewers that

1330
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:25,420
don't know or listeners that don't know

1331
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:29,410
y'all didn't have some something that

1332
00:55:33,390 --> 00:55:31,089
came back from from testing it right

1333
00:55:36,809 --> 00:55:33,400
y'all had some answers yeah so this is

1334
00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:36,819
actually an ongoing investigation you

1335
00:55:40,799 --> 00:55:38,710
know it did not end with the the

1336
00:55:43,260 --> 00:55:40,809
television special that was a that was

1337
00:55:46,589 --> 00:55:43,270
fun I mean I was contacted out of the

1338
00:55:48,809 --> 00:55:46,599
blue and they it was television CW

1339
00:55:51,029 --> 00:55:48,819
network was like we want to go

1340
00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:51,039
we're rebooting Roswell do you know the

1341
00:55:54,809 --> 00:55:52,900
fictional television show from the 90s

1342
00:55:56,819 --> 00:55:54,819
was like I school I remember that show

1343
00:55:59,010 --> 00:55:56,829
like yeah we're gonna do it the

1344
00:56:00,779 --> 00:55:59,020
modern-day version but we want to like

1345
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:00,789
inform the public of what actually

1346
00:56:04,529 --> 00:56:02,529
happened in Roswell so like we want to

1347
00:56:07,319 --> 00:56:04,539
go out and investigate it I was like all

1348
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:07,329
right like I guess I don't know what we

1349
00:56:12,809 --> 00:56:09,250
could discover after all this time but

1350
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:12,819
yeah sure I'll go out there and I was

1351
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:16,210
very surprised like we actually found

1352
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:18,160
new evidence and that came in the form

1353
00:56:23,370 --> 00:56:21,760
of Frank Kim blur he's a a geologist out

1354
00:56:25,380 --> 00:56:23,380
in Roswell he works at the Military

1355
00:56:27,539 --> 00:56:25,390
Institute and the dude for like the past

1356
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:27,549
couple of years has been out there

1357
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:29,410
digging at the crash site which is a

1358
00:56:33,930 --> 00:56:31,690
story in itself of how he found it he

1359
00:56:35,940 --> 00:56:33,940
was able to use like all these crazy

1360
00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:35,950
aerial satellite stuff till I

1361
00:56:40,589 --> 00:56:38,049
triangulate the area according to like

1362
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:40,599
certain bushes in the desert it's it's

1363
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:45,490
[\h__\h] crazy oh yeah yeah it's crazy I

1364
00:56:49,740 --> 00:56:47,410
don't know how he did it but he what he

1365
00:56:51,870 --> 00:56:49,750
did was he went out to the site and he

1366
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:51,880
just started digging and him and his son

1367
00:56:56,370 --> 00:56:54,130
free almost a few years were out there

1368
00:56:58,799 --> 00:56:56,380
digging like every weekend and they

1369
00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:58,809
actually found medals out there which if

1370
00:57:03,450 --> 00:57:00,960
you guys if you actually go out there

1371
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:03,460
it's like a hundred miles from anything

1372
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:04,930
any form of

1373
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:07,569
and he nothing out there nothing not a

1374
00:57:12,270 --> 00:57:09,010
bird not a bug

1375
00:57:15,390 --> 00:57:12,280
nothing so when we discovered that he

1376
00:57:17,849 --> 00:57:15,400
found like metal alloys out there well

1377
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:17,859
what the hell this this has to be the

1378
00:57:24,359 --> 00:57:21,130
place and the way he like discovered it

1379
00:57:26,790 --> 00:57:24,369
is from years and years of like erosion

1380
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:26,800
and like water coming through those

1381
00:57:32,609 --> 00:57:30,010
areas the Arroyo is out there that stuff

1382
00:57:35,819 --> 00:57:32,619
would go down it would be like under the

1383
00:57:38,099 --> 00:57:35,829
surface and if the guys out there were

1384
00:57:40,290 --> 00:57:38,109
the military people picked everything up

1385
00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:40,300
that was on the surface they did not get

1386
00:57:46,349 --> 00:57:43,030
everything so I'm like yeah I'm all in

1387
00:57:48,299 --> 00:57:46,359
with that so he found metals we went to

1388
00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:48,309
Razvi we talked to him he showed us

1389
00:57:53,609 --> 00:57:50,559
military buttons he found out there too

1390
00:57:56,370 --> 00:57:53,619
that they were carbon dated back to the

1391
00:57:58,349 --> 00:57:56,380
40s so what the hell were military

1392
00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:58,359
buttons doing out there if they weren't

1393
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:00,400
like on their hands and knees picking

1394
00:58:06,839 --> 00:58:02,710
[\h__\h] up and like you know maybe a button

1395
00:58:11,819 --> 00:58:06,849
or two fell off so back to the metals we

1396
00:58:14,010 --> 00:58:11,829
go to a aerospace lab in California and

1397
00:58:17,250 --> 00:58:14,020
we're talking like these dudes work with

1398
00:58:20,849 --> 00:58:17,260
some pretty well known aerospace people

1399
00:58:22,799 --> 00:58:20,859
on almost a daily basis and we're we

1400
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:22,809
didn't tell them what we're doing we did

1401
00:58:27,690 --> 00:58:25,690
not say we think we have UFO pieces will

1402
00:58:29,730 --> 00:58:27,700
you test them because you try that with

1403
00:58:31,260 --> 00:58:29,740
these labs and they want nothing to do

1404
00:58:33,660 --> 00:58:31,270
with you like they don't want that on

1405
00:58:35,609 --> 00:58:33,670
their shoulders so like we tried like

1406
00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:35,619
five laps before we smartened up and

1407
00:58:41,849 --> 00:58:37,510
we're like maybe we shouldn't mention

1408
00:58:44,370 --> 00:58:41,859
these could possibly be from a UFO so we

1409
00:58:46,650 --> 00:58:44,380
we got him tested at the lab and our

1410
00:58:50,099 --> 00:58:46,660
results were actually pretty interesting

1411
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:50,109
now on the TV show it was kind of a

1412
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:53,410
wah-wah-wah like we we they're just

1413
00:59:00,780 --> 00:58:56,559
normal metals or whatever but what

1414
00:59:02,910 --> 00:59:00,790
actually happened is these things were

1415
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:02,920
tested before in Canada and it came back

1416
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:06,130
like totally off the charts like alien

1417
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:08,290
like this stuff cannot be from here and

1418
00:59:12,809 --> 00:59:11,170
we were like okay let's let's get it

1419
00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:12,819
tested to make sure like they didn't

1420
00:59:17,420 --> 00:59:16,030
screw anything up lo and behold they

1421
00:59:20,809 --> 00:59:17,430
really screwed up

1422
00:59:25,460 --> 00:59:20,819
and we were able to determine that yes

1423
00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:25,470
the metals were quite possibly from

1424
00:59:32,359 --> 00:59:29,910
earth but the way the ratios were in

1425
00:59:37,250 --> 00:59:32,369
terms of like the actual alloys within

1426
00:59:37,970 --> 00:59:37,260
it definitely were from something in

1427
00:59:42,319 --> 00:59:37,980
space

1428
00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:42,329
and composition that you would only put

1429
00:59:49,250 --> 00:59:45,599
on the most sophisticated shuttles out

1430
00:59:52,130 --> 00:59:49,260
there so what the hell were these metals

1431
00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:52,140
doing out in the desert buried under

1432
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:54,329
like feet of ground that had been there

1433
01:00:00,020 --> 00:59:58,079
for almost 50 years so I'm not saying it

1434
01:00:02,660 --> 01:00:00,030
was aliens but like yeah there was some

1435
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:02,670
super high-tech [\h__\h] metal going on

1436
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:04,890
in that desert that had been there for a

1437
01:00:09,140 --> 01:00:06,930
really long time so maybe it was some

1438
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:09,150
top-secret thing I mean you look back at

1439
01:00:13,609 --> 01:00:11,130
the 40's and Roswell happen we were just

1440
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:13,619
starting the early stages of the space

1441
01:00:18,319 --> 01:00:16,170
program so could it have been ours yeah

1442
01:00:21,470 --> 01:00:18,329
is that worth a cover-up for 50 years

1443
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:21,480
maybe or or it was aliens I don't know

1444
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:23,970
but the tests are ongoing we still have

1445
01:00:28,579 --> 01:00:25,530
a lot of different tests to do with the

1446
01:00:30,620 --> 01:00:28,589
metals and I I should have some exciting

1447
01:00:32,930 --> 01:00:30,630
news about some follow up with that

1448
01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:32,940
pretty soon that's cool that's awesome

1449
01:00:39,260 --> 01:00:35,369
dude have you heard any any stories

1450
01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:39,270
about how I don't know if it was it us

1451
01:00:45,140 --> 01:00:41,280
or maybe like the UH maybe the Russians

1452
01:00:48,589 --> 01:00:45,150
or whatever maybe had like sent you know

1453
01:00:51,319 --> 01:00:48,599
a man-made craft but it had like like

1454
01:00:53,359 --> 01:00:51,329
children inside of it like like that had

1455
01:00:56,030 --> 01:00:53,369
deformities and things like that and

1456
01:00:57,950 --> 01:00:56,040
like that's why they didn't want to say

1457
01:01:00,319 --> 01:00:57,960
anything because they don't want that

1458
01:01:02,690 --> 01:01:00,329
getting out which is worse than covering

1459
01:01:03,980 --> 01:01:02,700
up aliens like I think it's way worse to

1460
01:01:06,020 --> 01:01:03,990
be like yeah we just got some like

1461
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:06,030
special needs kids and put them in a

1462
01:01:09,710 --> 01:01:08,250
spacecraft and shot it across you know

1463
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:09,720
the world yeah

1464
01:01:16,220 --> 01:01:13,770
so I'd heard those rumors you know sort

1465
01:01:18,049 --> 01:01:16,230
of whispers in the UFO field and I know

1466
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:18,059
Nick Redfern is written a book all about

1467
01:01:23,870 --> 01:01:22,290
that that theory as well but I will tell

1468
01:01:25,910 --> 01:01:23,880
you this when we were in Roswell you

1469
01:01:28,250 --> 01:01:25,920
know we we were just kind of chilling

1470
01:01:29,839 --> 01:01:28,260
and we have a camera guys with us so of

1471
01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:29,849
course everyone in town

1472
01:01:33,729 --> 01:01:31,529
the locals want they want to know what

1473
01:01:35,809 --> 01:01:33,739
the hell you're doing in Roswell and

1474
01:01:38,059 --> 01:01:35,819
usually they assume you're doing

1475
01:01:40,009 --> 01:01:38,069
something with the crash or aliens

1476
01:01:42,319 --> 01:01:40,019
because why else would you be in the

1477
01:01:44,569 --> 01:01:42,329
middle of Roswell yeah well we're doing

1478
01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:44,579
a documentary on Roadrunners yeah right

1479
01:01:48,529 --> 01:01:47,910
well the same dude that is so funny you

1480
01:01:50,599 --> 01:01:48,539
said that

1481
01:01:52,670 --> 01:01:50,609
so our cameraman didn't want to tell

1482
01:01:54,709 --> 01:01:52,680
them what we're doing and he literally

1483
01:01:58,449 --> 01:01:54,719
goes we're doing a documentary on

1484
01:02:01,489 --> 01:01:58,459
groundwater and I was like oh

1485
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:01,499
interesting he's like so nothing with

1486
01:02:06,319 --> 01:02:04,410
UFOs and they were like now but like

1487
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:06,329
what do you know about that just curious

1488
01:02:10,430 --> 01:02:07,650
what do you know cuz we wanted to hear

1489
01:02:12,650 --> 01:02:10,440
from locals and like not on camera we

1490
01:02:15,979 --> 01:02:12,660
wanted to hear it like raw vulnerable as

1491
01:02:18,739 --> 01:02:15,989
they can be and this guy goes oh my my

1492
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:18,749
grandfather worked at at the base

1493
01:02:24,140 --> 01:02:22,170
Roswell Army Airfield and yeah I totally

1494
01:02:27,199 --> 01:02:24,150
know what it was we're like oh really

1495
01:02:30,709 --> 01:02:27,209
well tell us and he went on to tell us

1496
01:02:34,420 --> 01:02:30,719
that it was a top-secret project early

1497
01:02:37,819 --> 01:02:34,430
space program where we were sending up

1498
01:02:39,259 --> 01:02:37,829
children in high-altitude balloons to

1499
01:02:41,269 --> 01:02:39,269
see how far they could get in the

1500
01:02:44,959 --> 01:02:41,279
atmosphere before you know their [\h__\h]

1501
01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:44,969
heads exploded or something oh yeah so

1502
01:02:51,319 --> 01:02:47,369
we should send dogs in Montreuil [\h__\h]

1503
01:02:53,870 --> 01:02:51,329
crazy so he thinks this guy thinks it

1504
01:02:58,939 --> 01:02:53,880
was us not the Russians not the Germans

1505
01:03:00,739 --> 01:02:58,949
that we were doing this and if you know

1506
01:03:02,420 --> 01:03:00,749
what it kind of clicked when I was in

1507
01:03:04,609 --> 01:03:02,430
Roswell hearing the story we went to the

1508
01:03:06,709 --> 01:03:04,619
Roswell Daily Record newspaper who broke

1509
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:06,719
the original story we heard from the

1510
01:03:11,660 --> 01:03:09,599
original sources their families about

1511
01:03:14,209 --> 01:03:11,670
what headline they were told to put in

1512
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:14,219
the newspaper we went to Frank and we

1513
01:03:17,930 --> 01:03:15,690
talked about what he'd found with the

1514
01:03:20,449 --> 01:03:17,940
medals we talked to all these locals and

1515
01:03:23,089 --> 01:03:20,459
like all these stories are spinning

1516
01:03:27,019 --> 01:03:23,099
around in my head and I'm like holy [\h__\h]

1517
01:03:28,939 --> 01:03:27,029
this human experiment thing makes so

1518
01:03:31,130 --> 01:03:28,949
much more sense it explains the bodies

1519
01:03:33,259 --> 01:03:31,140
that were found why they looked deformed

1520
01:03:35,089 --> 01:03:33,269
because like you said a lot of people

1521
01:03:38,420 --> 01:03:35,099
think they used special needs children

1522
01:03:40,610 --> 01:03:38,430
who were kind of out casted and nobody

1523
01:03:42,410 --> 01:03:40,620
would know they were missing or that

1524
01:03:45,410 --> 01:03:42,420
that you know that they've been killed

1525
01:03:47,690 --> 01:03:45,420
so maybe those were the bodies that were

1526
01:03:52,220 --> 01:03:47,700
found why they needed children caskets

1527
01:03:54,050 --> 01:03:52,230
the Roswell funeral home they were they

1528
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:54,060
asked do you have child sized caskets

1529
01:03:57,260 --> 01:03:56,130
guys like what no it was like alright

1530
01:04:02,120 --> 01:03:57,270
what we need four of them like

1531
01:04:03,410 --> 01:04:02,130
immediately it explains why the original

1532
01:04:05,330 --> 01:04:03,420
story was it was a weather balloon

1533
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:05,340
because it actually was a sort of

1534
01:04:11,180 --> 01:04:07,530
top-secret high-altitude balloon that

1535
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:11,190
they were using so the human side of the

1536
01:04:16,730 --> 01:04:14,010
Roswell case is extremely disturbing and

1537
01:04:19,970 --> 01:04:16,740
the more and more I look at it I'm kind

1538
01:04:22,580 --> 01:04:19,980
of like it actually makes some sense and

1539
01:04:24,740 --> 01:04:22,590
that that's [\h__\h] terrifying like you

1540
01:04:26,750 --> 01:04:24,750
said that's more scary than aliens

1541
01:04:29,210 --> 01:04:26,760
crashing on our planet for using our own

1542
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:29,220
people to do these experiments and then

1543
01:04:32,420 --> 01:04:31,050
we're gonna let the public say yeah yeah

1544
01:04:34,490 --> 01:04:32,430
look they let them go with the alien

1545
01:04:36,740 --> 01:04:34,500
story if I don't go with that and we'll

1546
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:36,750
continue to build our space program

1547
01:04:42,590 --> 01:04:41,130
now black-budget well I wonder like what

1548
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:42,600
does happen to the human body when it

1549
01:04:46,460 --> 01:04:44,370
goes in a really high altitude does this

1550
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:46,470
like your body bloat it's some like is

1551
01:04:50,390 --> 01:04:47,970
there a reason why the heads were bigger

1552
01:04:52,730 --> 01:04:50,400
you know alright well wonder what

1553
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:52,740
happens to a human body yeah high

1554
01:04:57,470 --> 01:04:54,930
altitude I think only a few people

1555
01:05:07,400 --> 01:04:57,480
really know man and they're long gone by

1556
01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:07,410
this point I don't know I mean it is a

1557
01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:09,510
secret but I think it's no secret that

1558
01:05:14,420 --> 01:05:11,520
you know our government definitely has

1559
01:05:17,300 --> 01:05:14,430
tested on people and you know it's it's

1560
01:05:19,490 --> 01:05:17,310
that's that's kind of what they do yeah

1561
01:05:22,190 --> 01:05:19,500
I feel like that has a lot to do with

1562
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:22,200
most of this secrecy stuff a lot more

1563
01:05:28,070 --> 01:05:24,720
than then you know maybe the the alien

1564
01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:28,080
UFO element it's just what they're doing

1565
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:31,470
to them their own people yeah yeah man

1566
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:34,770
and didn't like there's a scientist in

1567
01:05:38,740 --> 01:05:36,450
China that just got like the okay to

1568
01:05:43,730 --> 01:05:38,750
start doing animal and human DNA

1569
01:05:45,540 --> 01:05:43,740
hybridization projects yeah no thank you

1570
01:05:47,550 --> 01:05:45,550
that's that's not Oh China

1571
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:47,560
[Laughter]

1572
01:05:53,910 --> 01:05:50,410
Oh China I love you everything

1573
01:05:56,850 --> 01:05:53,920
everything we own is made there but I

1574
01:05:58,530 --> 01:05:56,860
know but on the show on the topic of TV

1575
01:06:01,470 --> 01:05:58,540
shows man are you are you excited for

1576
01:06:04,410 --> 01:06:01,480
the the next blue book to come out dude

1577
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:04,420
oh absolutely I mean I'm a huge Hynek

1578
01:06:10,350 --> 01:06:07,930
fan I mean he's like my hero I love the

1579
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:10,360
first season look I mean everyone's

1580
01:06:15,450 --> 01:06:12,970
ragging on it cuz it's total fiction and

1581
01:06:17,820 --> 01:06:15,460
like they're mixing cases and like it's

1582
01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:17,830
inaccurate it's a TV show it's not a

1583
01:06:22,290 --> 01:06:19,510
documentary that's what I tell people

1584
01:06:24,620 --> 01:06:22,300
you know watching the teaser for the new

1585
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:24,630
season they're doing Roswell area 51

1586
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:27,280
MKULTRA they're just like everything

1587
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:28,810
there are the baby in with the bathwater

1588
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:31,690
and I'm all oh man like let's be excited

1589
01:06:35,940 --> 01:06:33,490
for it - dude yeah cuz I mean you got to

1590
01:06:37,950 --> 01:06:35,950
know it's just it's fiction yes it's

1591
01:06:39,810 --> 01:06:37,960
coming out on the History Channel but I

1592
01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:39,820
mean they're kind of the alien channel

1593
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:42,310
now but yeah it's like dude you know

1594
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:44,650
it's they're not like they haven't told

1595
01:06:48,540 --> 01:06:46,570
you the truth before it's not gonna come

1596
01:06:52,260 --> 01:06:48,550
out on a on a History Channel TV show

1597
01:06:54,780 --> 01:06:52,270
like you didn't expect that dude it's so

1598
01:06:56,550 --> 01:06:54,790
funny it's like I remember seeing the

1599
01:06:58,830 --> 01:06:56,560
meme where it's like here's History

1600
01:07:01,260 --> 01:06:58,840
Channel during the day Egyptians built

1601
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:01,270
the pyramids here's here's History

1602
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:06,730
Channel at 10:00 p.m. at night pyramids

1603
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:09,850
like taken off into space yeah that's

1604
01:07:15,150 --> 01:07:10,570
pretty much it

1605
01:07:17,850 --> 01:07:15,160
another one I haven't seen yet is a

1606
01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:17,860
Hellyer - man that that looks like it's

1607
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:18,880
gonna be pretty awesome because the

1608
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:22,210
first yeah first season was great yeah

1609
01:07:28,170 --> 01:07:25,210
so I mean those dudes over it planet

1610
01:07:29,850 --> 01:07:28,180
weird they're they're huge heroes of

1611
01:07:32,340 --> 01:07:29,860
mine I love everything they do they're

1612
01:07:33,870 --> 01:07:32,350
the kind of people who are like not set

1613
01:07:35,490 --> 01:07:33,880
in their ways like what I'm dealing with

1614
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:35,500
these UFOs what I'm dealing with is

1615
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:37,690
ghosts it's like no let's see what else

1616
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:39,970
it could be and this whole Helier thing

1617
01:07:44,430 --> 01:07:42,490
for any of your listeners who don't know

1618
01:07:45,810 --> 01:07:44,440
what it is I can't really explain it cuz

1619
01:07:48,510 --> 01:07:45,820
I don't think they even know what the

1620
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:48,520
hell is going on yeah it started with

1621
01:07:53,610 --> 01:07:51,010
these cryptic emails about a dude being

1622
01:07:55,380 --> 01:07:53,620
terrorized by goblins in Kentucky so

1623
01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:55,390
right there you're like what I want to

1624
01:07:59,850 --> 01:07:58,210
see that yeah and it just goes down

1625
01:08:00,730 --> 01:07:59,860
every avenue and rabbit hole you can

1626
01:08:02,650 --> 01:08:00,740
think of

1627
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:02,660
they just dropped their season two I've

1628
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:05,810
got Greg Newkirk coming on my show this

1629
01:08:11,260 --> 01:08:09,530
week to talk about it and what you know

1630
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:11,270
what he discovered and kind of where

1631
01:08:14,980 --> 01:08:12,770
where they're left in their

1632
01:08:16,990 --> 01:08:14,990
investigation and it's crazy

1633
01:08:19,690 --> 01:08:17,000
it's like this breadcrumb trail of just

1634
01:08:21,209 --> 01:08:19,700
mystery and weird [\h__\h] and everything

1635
01:08:24,970 --> 01:08:21,219
you could possibly think of in this

1636
01:08:27,070 --> 01:08:24,980
paranormal weird world we live in so I

1637
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:27,080
definitely suggest people check out

1638
01:08:33,010 --> 01:08:29,330
Helier yeah it's all over it's like

1639
01:08:34,959 --> 01:08:33,020
number one on Amazon Prime yeah I'm

1640
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:34,969
pretty excited about it yeah they when

1641
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:36,319
they started talking about you know like

1642
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:38,810
just the caves and like the Brown

1643
01:08:42,579 --> 01:08:40,850
Mountain lights and all the stuff they

1644
01:08:43,900 --> 01:08:42,589
were seeing you know here in Texas we

1645
01:08:45,970 --> 01:08:43,910
have the Marfa lights have you ever

1646
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:45,980
heard of the Marfa lights oh absolutely

1647
01:08:52,090 --> 01:08:49,130
yeah yeah dude I mean you know it's it's

1648
01:08:54,430 --> 01:08:52,100
still you know up in the air like nobody

1649
01:08:55,959 --> 01:08:54,440
nobody really knows I mean there's been

1650
01:08:57,249 --> 01:08:55,969
like teams of scientists that have gone

1651
01:09:01,690 --> 01:08:57,259
out there and they're like yeah it's

1652
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:01,700
cars like where these these lights are

1653
01:09:05,499 --> 01:09:03,890
being seen you know like it's just it's

1654
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:05,509
kind of crazy and they and they occur

1655
01:09:10,990 --> 01:09:08,210
like around the same time almost every

1656
01:09:13,630 --> 01:09:11,000
night and you know it's like I've seen

1657
01:09:15,820 --> 01:09:13,640
them and it's ball lightning it's it's

1658
01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:15,830
cars it's well those are Chinese

1659
01:09:19,150 --> 01:09:17,120
lanterns like somebody's up there

1660
01:09:21,099 --> 01:09:19,160
lighting Chinese lanterns every single

1661
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:21,109
night you're right you know that's

1662
01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:23,330
that's like a dedicated prank right

1663
01:09:28,630 --> 01:09:26,630
there exactly exactly

1664
01:09:31,599 --> 01:09:28,640
yeah yep let's get out there and like

1665
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:31,609
those Chinese Lantern hell no get out of

1666
01:09:36,610 --> 01:09:34,130
here with that man yeah so yeah nobody

1667
01:09:39,309 --> 01:09:36,620
knows what that is man but but yeah

1668
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:39,319
that's cool little uh Texas phenomenon

1669
01:09:43,780 --> 01:09:41,330
that we got you ever know you guys got

1670
01:09:47,890 --> 01:09:43,790
some great statuses yeah I've been there

1671
01:09:49,539 --> 01:09:47,900
a couple times traveling and yeah I mean

1672
01:09:51,490 --> 01:09:49,549
you guys got the Stephenville case one

1673
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:51,500
of the biggest UFO cases of all time I

1674
01:09:58,570 --> 01:09:55,730
mean it aurora - my god perhaps one of

1675
01:10:00,940 --> 01:09:58,580
the first UFO crashes so I mean you guys

1676
01:10:03,610 --> 01:10:00,950
when it comes to UFOs you're you got it

1677
01:10:04,990 --> 01:10:03,620
going on for sure yeah there's a lot of

1678
01:10:07,060 --> 01:10:05,000
cool stuff out here man I mean there's

1679
01:10:08,650 --> 01:10:07,070
just there's so much uh you know nothing

1680
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:08,660
there's there yeah you know we got we've

1681
01:10:12,070 --> 01:10:10,370
got big old cities but at the same time

1682
01:10:13,530 --> 01:10:12,080
there's a lot of nothing out here so

1683
01:10:16,260 --> 01:10:13,540
well in that swear

1684
01:10:18,540 --> 01:10:16,270
happens dude I mean I live in the most

1685
01:10:20,820 --> 01:10:18,550
populated city in America it's gross

1686
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:20,830
it's dirty it's loud and light pollution

1687
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:22,570
you can't see [\h__\h]

1688
01:10:27,150 --> 01:10:25,360
so like I'm I'm envious I'm not gonna

1689
01:10:29,940 --> 01:10:27,160
lie I'm envious that you can have an

1690
01:10:33,180 --> 01:10:29,950
open sky to search while I'm just

1691
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:33,190
staring up it's smog and ten million

1692
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:36,850
airplanes coming in and out of JFK yeah

1693
01:10:41,700 --> 01:10:39,010
yeah well bin lives next to the the

1694
01:10:43,980 --> 01:10:41,710
Austin Bergstrom International Airport

1695
01:10:46,140 --> 01:10:43,990
so he's constantly got [\h__\h] flying over

1696
01:10:47,940 --> 01:10:46,150
his house good thing is you know like

1697
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:47,950
you drive thirty minutes in any

1698
01:10:51,930 --> 01:10:50,170
direction and it there's nothing yeah

1699
01:10:53,790 --> 01:10:51,940
and that's that's pretty cool and some

1700
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:53,800
cities here are also starting to take on

1701
01:10:59,370 --> 01:10:56,800
that the no light pollution ordinance

1702
01:11:01,890 --> 01:10:59,380
where lights have to you know be like

1703
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:01,900
dim lights so I'm pretty excited about

1704
01:11:04,770 --> 01:11:03,610
that happening so we can we can

1705
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:04,780
definitely you know keep your eyes on

1706
01:11:10,260 --> 01:11:07,570
the sky dude could you imagine man the

1707
01:11:11,580 --> 01:11:10,270
the more sky we see the better chance of

1708
01:11:13,290 --> 01:11:11,590
seeing these things and everyone's

1709
01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:13,300
always like I want to see you I want to

1710
01:11:18,810 --> 01:11:15,910
see UFO I'm like all right go to Arizona

1711
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:18,820
go to New Mexico go to Texas like this

1712
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:22,690
is not the place to be so yeah yeah man

1713
01:11:27,450 --> 01:11:24,970
will do if yeah if you're ever rolling

1714
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:27,460
through Texas man and you want to have

1715
01:11:33,870 --> 01:11:29,890
some barbecue and look up at the skies

1716
01:11:36,540 --> 01:11:33,880
bro you hit us up yeah that sounds like

1717
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:36,550
perfection yeah we'll go chase some UFOs

1718
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:41,770
together dude you know I mean you guys

1719
01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:43,770
make some damn good tacos out there Oh

1720
01:11:48,420 --> 01:11:46,450
some of the best some of the best dude

1721
01:11:52,530 --> 01:11:48,430
yeah we were out uh I was out intra

1722
01:11:54,060 --> 01:11:52,540
lingua and dude I mean the the sky out

1723
01:11:57,060 --> 01:11:54,070
there cuz there's nothing it's just

1724
01:11:59,640 --> 01:11:57,070
desert you know and and it's it's pretty

1725
01:12:02,460 --> 01:11:59,650
rough dude like it's pretty rough out

1726
01:12:05,010 --> 01:12:02,470
there I'm like yeah yeah I'm I'm uh I'm

1727
01:12:08,460 --> 01:12:05,020
I'm drawn to the desert I absolutely

1728
01:12:10,530 --> 01:12:08,470
love it but man it's just gorgeous at

1729
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:10,540
nighttime it doesn't get any better than

1730
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:13,210
that man yeah there's something about it

1731
01:12:17,379 --> 01:12:15,970
I mean even I'm I've been a city boy my

1732
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:17,389
whole life and

1733
01:12:22,450 --> 01:12:19,610
there's just something about the desert

1734
01:12:24,250 --> 01:12:22,460
that draws you in and I don't know what

1735
01:12:26,109 --> 01:12:24,260
it is I don't want to know what it is I

1736
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:26,119
just know it's magical and it's where

1737
01:12:32,890 --> 01:12:28,250
these things are meant to happen I

1738
01:12:35,169 --> 01:12:32,900
really do believe that and I hope that

1739
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:35,179
someday I can get out there again either

1740
01:12:41,770 --> 01:12:38,449
Roswell Texas and just enjoy it

1741
01:12:44,649 --> 01:12:41,780
and like take it all in and and maybe

1742
01:12:46,990 --> 01:12:44,659
see that triangle I saw when I was 12

1743
01:12:50,129 --> 01:12:47,000
years old I don't know man yeah you

1744
01:12:53,530 --> 01:12:50,139
should try to vector it end it yes

1745
01:12:59,649 --> 01:12:53,540
Steven Greer sky you know get some green

1746
01:13:01,390 --> 01:12:59,659
lasers didn't got a green laser and and

1747
01:13:04,629 --> 01:13:01,400
and dude he ran out of batteries in like

1748
01:13:07,149 --> 01:13:04,639
the first like doubled a [\h__\h] around

1749
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:07,159
with it mine still works but yeah

1750
01:13:11,770 --> 01:13:09,290
because I'm using it to vector aliens

1751
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:11,780
dude I was gonna say vectoring in aliens

1752
01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:21,760
so did you are you are you running out

1753
01:13:28,209 --> 01:13:23,840
of time you bet to have to go and uh and

1754
01:13:31,300 --> 01:13:28,219
pick up the lady yeah yeah I'm the one

1755
01:13:34,090 --> 01:13:31,310
who's in charge of of the commuting here

1756
01:13:35,950 --> 01:13:34,100
in New York City so yeah I mean y'all

1757
01:13:37,359 --> 01:13:35,960
got one of the best mass transit systems

1758
01:13:40,959 --> 01:13:37,369
like in the world don't you

1759
01:13:44,050 --> 01:13:40,969
that is true that is true it just uh it

1760
01:13:47,020 --> 01:13:44,060
just it decides to break down and now's

1761
01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:47,030
dude dies I don't know how many times

1762
01:13:50,709 --> 01:13:48,800
you've heard it tonight but it wakes me

1763
01:13:51,660 --> 01:13:50,719
up like every half hour but I'm used to

1764
01:13:54,850 --> 01:13:51,670
it by now

1765
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,860
that's awesome man well bro thank you so

1766
01:13:58,419 --> 01:13:56,480
much for coming on the show yeah

1767
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:58,429
definitely want to have you back again

1768
01:14:01,689 --> 01:14:00,080
and because I mean there's a million

1769
01:14:03,669 --> 01:14:01,699
more things I could ask you and talk to

1770
01:14:05,979 --> 01:14:03,679
you about oh my god I could talk for I

1771
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:05,989
could talk for 10 more hours but no guys

1772
01:14:10,629 --> 01:14:08,570
I know our conversations only begun so

1773
01:14:13,149 --> 01:14:10,639
no thank you thank you so much for

1774
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:13,159
having me I I'm totally digging what you

1775
01:14:16,780 --> 01:14:16,010
guys are doing and we need all the help

1776
01:14:19,149 --> 01:14:16,790
we can get

1777
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:19,159
so like let's do this again you got to

1778
01:14:23,859 --> 01:14:21,290
come on my show now the invitations

1779
01:14:25,629 --> 01:14:23,869
there and totally let's do it

1780
01:14:29,589 --> 01:14:25,639
let's keep let's keep searching the

1781
01:14:31,030 --> 01:14:29,599
skies yes man yes and again bro if you

1782
01:14:32,910 --> 01:14:31,040
ever if you ever come through Tech

1783
01:14:37,090 --> 01:14:32,920
this man hit us up it will meet up and

1784
01:14:38,770 --> 01:14:37,100
go do some cool [\h__\h] I am in all right

1785
01:14:40,660 --> 01:14:38,780
brother way man it was good talking to

1786
01:14:42,820 --> 01:14:40,670
you man and what will talk to you next

1787
01:14:43,420 --> 01:14:42,830
time in absolutely have a great night

1788
01:14:45,220 --> 01:14:43,430
guys

1789
01:14:48,190 --> 01:14:45,230
All Right see you man see you later dude

1790
01:14:49,420 --> 01:14:48,200
later sick well that was good stuff dude

1791
01:14:50,980 --> 01:14:49,430
that was so much fun

1792
01:14:53,380 --> 01:14:50,990
yeah we finally got to have him on the

1793
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:53,390
show I know man that was so good yeah

1794
01:14:56,740 --> 01:14:55,250
and I really did dude I mean I have like

1795
01:14:59,140 --> 01:14:56,750
a you know a hundred more questions

1796
01:15:01,270 --> 01:14:59,150
well 103 more questions that you know I

1797
01:15:02,530 --> 01:15:01,280
could totally ask him right now but you

1798
01:15:05,710 --> 01:15:02,540
know that just that just leaves it open

1799
01:15:07,450 --> 01:15:05,720
for the next one dude we gotta have him

1800
01:15:09,010 --> 01:15:07,460
back on our feet that'd be awesome we

1801
01:15:10,420 --> 01:15:09,020
can go on any show - that'd be sick yeah

1802
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:10,430
that would be sick dude maybe I can ask

1803
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:13,970
him like 94 questions like we ask him

1804
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:16,130
questions live him ask you ask him

1805
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:19,730
questions on his podcast yes did we just

1806
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:21,370
interview him again

1807
01:15:26,830 --> 01:15:24,290
we don't know how to be guests we only

1808
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:26,840
know how to be interviewees know what

1809
01:15:31,630 --> 01:15:29,690
I'd say dude it's like if you if you try

1810
01:15:35,860 --> 01:15:31,640
to like research us like yeah what's

1811
01:15:36,730 --> 01:15:35,870
there to find you Blake so I see that

1812
01:15:43,060 --> 01:15:36,740
you like aliens

1813
01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:43,070
I like aliens - yeah dude yeah but yeah

1814
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:44,450
cuz I mean the you know the dude does

1815
01:15:49,480 --> 01:15:47,930
film and movies and writes books and

1816
01:15:52,180 --> 01:15:49,490
yeah all kinds of stuff

1817
01:15:54,610 --> 01:15:52,190
we'll be like yeah me and Ben we always

1818
01:15:56,380 --> 01:15:54,620
think about writing a book and you know

1819
01:15:59,680 --> 01:15:56,390
what we think it's gonna be awesome

1820
01:16:01,600 --> 01:15:59,690
yeah the thought is is there it's gonna

1821
01:16:03,940 --> 01:16:01,610
be sick yeah when we do right I don't

1822
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:03,950
know what we're gonna write about us do

1823
01:16:06,730 --> 01:16:04,730
oh okay

1824
01:16:10,570 --> 01:16:06,740
no we'll just write about us okay our

1825
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:10,580
experience it all started June of

1826
01:16:17,050 --> 01:16:15,050
nineteen yeah yeah oh yeah dude but yeah

1827
01:16:18,190 --> 01:16:17,060
dude I mean it was uh it was a lot of

1828
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:18,200
fun a lot of fun

1829
01:16:22,570 --> 01:16:20,570
I want to hear more stories I want more

1830
01:16:23,710 --> 01:16:22,580
people to start emailing us stories - I

1831
01:16:26,650 --> 01:16:23,720
know guys

1832
01:16:28,810 --> 01:16:26,660
email us some stories man talk to your

1833
01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:28,820
friends if you hear anybody who's got a

1834
01:16:33,700 --> 01:16:31,520
story tell them to uh to email it to us

1835
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:33,710
and uh you know we'll tell the story on

1836
01:16:38,620 --> 01:16:36,290
the show man or well have them on the

1837
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:38,630
podcast or you can you can like email us

1838
01:16:41,380 --> 01:16:39,770
and we'll figure out a way where you

1839
01:16:42,849 --> 01:16:41,390
could come and like leave a message and

1840
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:42,859
tell the story or

1841
01:16:47,020 --> 01:16:44,570
whatever ass something that become

1842
01:16:49,029 --> 01:16:47,030
because that people a pretty kick-ass

1843
01:16:51,219 --> 01:16:49,039
yeah I love those stories they don't say

1844
01:16:53,799 --> 01:16:51,229
that that hooded figure thing yeah

1845
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:53,809
that's creepy that is so creepy and

1846
01:16:57,879 --> 01:16:55,489
that's like it's been happening a lot

1847
01:16:59,560 --> 01:16:57,889
like there's not just one story it's

1848
01:17:01,479 --> 01:16:59,570
been happening a lot not late maybe

1849
01:17:03,099 --> 01:17:01,489
lately but a lot more stories that I've

1850
01:17:05,319 --> 01:17:03,109
been listening to have have like a

1851
01:17:08,500 --> 01:17:05,329
hooded figure in it yeah which is really

1852
01:17:10,750 --> 01:17:08,510
freakin creepy like a robed hooded dude

1853
01:17:12,369 --> 01:17:10,760
just in your house it does make me feel

1854
01:17:14,949 --> 01:17:12,379
good to know though that if like you're

1855
01:17:15,609 --> 01:17:14,959
ever scared gonna be like uh-uh no not

1856
01:17:18,939 --> 01:17:15,619
today

1857
01:17:21,339 --> 01:17:18,949
not uh-uh and then go and like chase

1858
01:17:22,089 --> 01:17:21,349
after it and watch it stumble over

1859
01:17:30,939 --> 01:17:22,099
itself

1860
01:17:34,959 --> 01:17:30,949
he's like ow ow yeah maybe so dude okay

1861
01:17:37,629 --> 01:17:34,969
the owl thing right maybe right that's

1862
01:17:39,639 --> 01:17:37,639
what that burrito was telling guys floor

1863
01:17:40,839 --> 01:17:39,649
he's like burrito burrito burrito yeah

1864
01:17:45,399 --> 01:17:40,849
turn into a burrito

1865
01:17:47,139 --> 01:17:45,409
yes yeah totally I mean maybe they just

1866
01:17:49,299 --> 01:17:47,149
like see something in your mind that you

1867
01:17:50,589 --> 01:17:49,309
that they think you'd be okay with and

1868
01:17:55,239 --> 01:17:50,599
the hawk all right this guy loves

1869
01:17:56,709 --> 01:17:55,249
burritos yeah he said it verbally -

1870
01:18:00,129 --> 01:17:56,719
uh-huh that's crazy

1871
01:18:02,020 --> 01:18:00,139
that is crazy like aliens dude I mean it

1872
01:18:04,089 --> 01:18:02,030
they've been studying us this long they

1873
01:18:06,369 --> 01:18:04,099
gotta know our language right I mean

1874
01:18:08,319 --> 01:18:06,379
they're just [\h__\h] with us yeah maybe

1875
01:18:10,629 --> 01:18:08,329
wonder why he would say it in English -

1876
01:18:12,909 --> 01:18:10,639
I don't know they were maybe hated

1877
01:18:15,879 --> 01:18:12,919
English maybe he knew you know that

1878
01:18:18,489 --> 01:18:15,889
we're in America this is a word mark

1879
01:18:21,790 --> 01:18:18,499
burn marker Mike we're gonna talk

1880
01:18:23,919 --> 01:18:21,800
English don't talk American

1881
01:18:27,790 --> 01:18:23,929
we're speaking American here in America

1882
01:18:30,399 --> 01:18:27,800
all right do you don't want to like kind

1883
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:30,409
of ask I wonder if he had heard any or

1884
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:33,050
has anybody submitted any stories or

1885
01:18:37,419 --> 01:18:36,050
does he know any famous UFO stories are

1886
01:18:40,659 --> 01:18:37,429
alien stories that happen in other other

1887
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:40,669
countries besides like Australia and I

1888
01:18:44,919 --> 01:18:42,050
know I know a lot of them happened in

1889
01:18:47,109 --> 01:18:44,929
like North America you know north and

1890
01:18:48,279 --> 01:18:47,119
south and and in Canada and all yeah but

1891
01:18:52,359 --> 01:18:48,289
like you don't hear about anything in

1892
01:18:54,340 --> 01:18:52,369
India a lot you know he submitted a FOIA

1893
01:18:58,030 --> 01:18:54,350
request for the

1894
01:19:01,300 --> 01:18:58,040
was it event that happened in Pakistan I

1895
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:01,310
think and I was gonna ask him that but

1896
01:19:05,470 --> 01:19:03,410
we started running out of time okay but

1897
01:19:08,260 --> 01:19:05,480
yeah we do I mean they they happen

1898
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:08,270
everywhere I mean so so just as of

1899
01:19:11,740 --> 01:19:09,650
recently right like our government

1900
01:19:13,060 --> 01:19:11,750
started talking about you know releasing

1901
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:13,070
all this information and blah blah blah

1902
01:19:17,620 --> 01:19:15,410
well we're the only country who hasn't

1903
01:19:19,570 --> 01:19:17,630
disclosed their information all the

1904
01:19:21,820 --> 01:19:19,580
other countries already have really very

1905
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:21,830
it's open people talk about it openly

1906
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:24,290
that's why it's not like a big deal like

1907
01:19:28,660 --> 01:19:26,210
anywhere else like this is just [\h__\h]

1908
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:28,670
people see all over the world and it's

1909
01:19:33,490 --> 01:19:31,040
like oh yeah it's those those flying

1910
01:19:35,850 --> 01:19:33,500
things again here in the United States

1911
01:19:38,950 --> 01:19:35,860
so it's like this big just cover up

1912
01:19:42,460 --> 01:19:38,960
conspiracy Oh what was that I saw in the

1913
01:19:43,870 --> 01:19:42,470
sky nobody knows but all the other world

1914
01:19:45,940 --> 01:19:43,880
governments have been like yeah dude

1915
01:19:48,190 --> 01:19:45,950
those are UFOs so for some reason it's

1916
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:48,200
just America that's bad dude yeah yeah I

1917
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:50,480
mean Canada's disclosed it for a

1918
01:19:56,380 --> 01:19:53,810
long-ass time Mexico it's huge dude I

1919
01:19:58,150 --> 01:19:56,390
mean like there's so a lot so many

1920
01:19:59,560 --> 01:19:58,160
things that happen like down in Mexico

1921
01:20:01,300 --> 01:19:59,570
so like I mean we're talking like just

1922
01:20:03,700 --> 01:20:01,310
right along the borders of both of us

1923
01:20:05,830 --> 01:20:03,710
you know both of us of the United States

1924
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:05,840
you know both of these countries have

1925
01:20:09,310 --> 01:20:07,370
disclosed it and it's like not a big

1926
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:09,320
deal to them and it's everywhere I mean

1927
01:20:14,140 --> 01:20:12,050
you know India too I mean like I've

1928
01:20:16,540 --> 01:20:14,150
heard I've heard all kinds of stuff all

1929
01:20:18,580 --> 01:20:16,550
over the world yeah dude

1930
01:20:20,620 --> 01:20:18,590
okay so I I saw something in the sky

1931
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:20,630
yesterday I filmed it well I want you to

1932
01:20:26,440 --> 01:20:21,890
take a look at it and see what would see

1933
01:20:32,380 --> 01:20:26,450
what you think let me see this well I

1934
01:20:33,730 --> 01:20:32,390
see your big-ass finger that's pretty

1935
01:20:36,550 --> 01:20:33,740
inch so it wasn't moving

1936
01:20:38,410 --> 01:20:36,560
it was stationary in the sky that's

1937
01:20:40,150 --> 01:20:38,420
pretty interesting first up first I'm

1938
01:20:42,850 --> 01:20:40,160
thinking it's like nope those number

1939
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:42,860
balloons ah it looks like there's a zero

1940
01:20:51,850 --> 01:20:46,850
and maybe like a seven or two yeah well

1941
01:20:54,940 --> 01:20:51,860
yeah I mean if it's not swamp gas it's

1942
01:20:56,380 --> 01:20:54,950
definitely a UFO right it's not yeah so

1943
01:20:59,590 --> 01:20:56,390
the weird thing is that the there was a

1944
01:21:01,480 --> 01:20:59,600
pretty good wind that day I mean this

1945
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:01,490
was yeah this was yesterday yeah but the

1946
01:21:05,790 --> 01:21:04,370
thing it didn't it didn't ascend or

1947
01:21:07,650 --> 01:21:05,800
descend it was just hanging out

1948
01:21:09,300 --> 01:21:07,660
guy that's cool there's another one

1949
01:21:10,860 --> 01:21:09,310
actually really cool if you slide to the

1950
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:10,870
left to the left there's another one

1951
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:14,080
that's your dick that's cuz you slide to

1952
01:21:23,490 --> 01:21:20,890
the right yes that's her dude that was

1953
01:21:24,930 --> 01:21:23,500
your wiener all right

1954
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:24,940
that's a nice wiener the freaking got

1955
01:21:34,730 --> 01:21:32,890
you dude yeah it's blurry it's got to be

1956
01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:34,740
a drone mm-hmm

1957
01:21:37,980 --> 01:21:37,510
no dude that's I tried to be pretty

1958
01:21:39,570 --> 01:21:37,990
still

1959
01:21:41,970 --> 01:21:39,580
that's actually pretty crazy looking

1960
01:21:44,010 --> 01:21:41,980
honestly I mean you guys out there

1961
01:21:46,290 --> 01:21:44,020
listening or piss cuz you can't see it

1962
01:21:48,450 --> 01:21:46,300
and I'm just like oh yeah mmm looks

1963
01:21:50,670 --> 01:21:48,460
looks pretty interesting yeah but uh

1964
01:21:53,370 --> 01:21:50,680
yeah post it on the Facebook yeah I'll

1965
01:21:56,970 --> 01:21:53,380
see what people and we'll see all the

1966
01:21:59,910 --> 01:21:56,980
[\h__\h] people talk about again another

1967
01:22:01,650 --> 01:21:59,920
blurry ass [\h__\h] cell phone photo

1968
01:22:03,540 --> 01:22:01,660
pretty awesome though dude yeah that's

1969
01:22:07,740 --> 01:22:03,550
this cool that's sick

1970
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:07,750
and then dude so I was a at a bar on

1971
01:22:12,390 --> 01:22:10,930
Friday night with Sam and he's were

1972
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:12,400
sitting at this picnic table and he's

1973
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:14,290
looking out towards the sky I'm looking

1974
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:16,210
towards the building so all of a sudden

1975
01:22:20,490 --> 01:22:18,010
we're having this chat and he goes oh my

1976
01:22:21,870 --> 01:22:20,500
god nice I turn around immediately and I

1977
01:22:23,550 --> 01:22:21,880
didn't see anything but he said dude

1978
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:23,560
that was really weird

1979
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:26,110
I just saw like you know a shooting star

1980
01:22:31,740 --> 01:22:29,050
comes in really fast like bu he said it

1981
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:31,750
was probably like start-finish it was

1982
01:22:38,730 --> 01:22:34,930
really fast but it was a huge orange

1983
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:38,740
circle that didn't have like reflections

1984
01:22:41,610 --> 01:22:39,970
coming off of it like huh

1985
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:41,620
or a trail or anything like that he said

1986
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:43,450
it was a trail but it was just this

1987
01:22:49,260 --> 01:22:45,850
big-ass orange ball that just streaked

1988
01:22:51,930 --> 01:22:49,270
across the sky but not all the way so it

1989
01:22:53,730 --> 01:22:51,940
just went like if you were to hold up

1990
01:22:55,290 --> 01:22:53,740
like a link of a cell phone in front of

1991
01:22:57,480 --> 01:22:55,300
you that's how far it went and then it

1992
01:22:58,350 --> 01:22:57,490
just disappeared it was pretty weird I

1993
01:23:00,780 --> 01:22:58,360
was pretty awesome

1994
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:00,790
this pissed that I didn't see it I like

1995
01:23:03,450 --> 01:23:02,050
immediately went on his side of the

1996
01:23:05,970 --> 01:23:03,460
table just in case it happened again

1997
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:05,980
right yeah yeah but dude to Z UFO

1998
01:23:09,660 --> 01:23:08,110
sightings in one weekend that's pretty

1999
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:09,670
cool it's that's uh it's pretty awesome

2000
01:23:14,220 --> 01:23:10,930
that's pretty awesome

2001
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:14,230
hey uh Dan what did I do I was pretty

2002
01:23:18,959 --> 01:23:17,650
lazy this weekend unfortunately I didn't

2003
01:23:20,939 --> 01:23:18,969
see any UFOs

2004
01:23:24,299 --> 01:23:20,949
man aren't you busy watching love after

2005
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:24,309
lock up an old lady on TLC what what

2006
01:23:30,989 --> 01:23:26,530
does the art people use the war show

2007
01:23:33,029 --> 01:23:30,999
ever created it's about okay so it's

2008
01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:33,039
about it's about people who are in

2009
01:23:37,500 --> 01:23:35,199
prison and then like they find love

2010
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:37,510
outside of prison and then whenever they

2011
01:23:40,229 --> 01:23:39,489
get released from prison they're like is

2012
01:23:42,330 --> 01:23:40,239
this gonna work

2013
01:23:44,219 --> 01:23:42,340
and it's like no because you were just

2014
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:44,229
in prison and they were just using you

2015
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:46,090
for your money and like it always works

2016
01:23:50,850 --> 01:23:48,130
out that way and they're like it's it's

2017
01:23:54,089 --> 01:23:50,860
it's so terrible home the worst show

2018
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:54,099
ever created um you ever see something

2019
01:23:58,319 --> 01:23:57,610
so terrible that like you just can't

2020
01:24:00,450 --> 01:23:58,329
look away

2021
01:24:02,729 --> 01:24:00,460
like it is it's kind of one of those

2022
01:24:06,959 --> 01:24:02,739
things where like I yell at the TV yeah

2023
01:24:08,939 --> 01:24:06,969
right and like I know I shouldn't be

2024
01:24:11,729 --> 01:24:08,949
doing this yeah we're watching this I am

2025
01:24:14,910 --> 01:24:11,739
completely it's wasting my time right

2026
01:24:18,989 --> 01:24:14,920
now right and and I should be out

2027
01:24:21,899 --> 01:24:18,999
looking for aliens yeah I I can't it

2028
01:24:26,489 --> 01:24:21,909
like sucks me in yeah I can't leave the

2029
01:24:28,709 --> 01:24:26,499
couch oh no oh dude is terrible yeah I

2030
01:24:30,810 --> 01:24:28,719
had a show like that a while back it

2031
01:24:34,589 --> 01:24:30,820
wasn't it was I can't remember the name

2032
01:24:36,270 --> 01:24:34,599
of it but it was raised you know I did

2033
01:24:37,739 --> 01:24:36,280
try to watch that I couldn't get into it

2034
01:24:41,310 --> 01:24:37,749
I heard it was really good show though I

2035
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:41,320
hear that you and it's not I think he's

2036
01:24:47,219 --> 01:24:43,650
for like smart people or something odd

2037
01:24:48,390 --> 01:24:47,229
but I did was the show uh it was about

2038
01:24:51,509 --> 01:24:48,400
people going out in the middle of

2039
01:24:52,739 --> 01:24:51,519
nowhere doing like a homestead and yeah

2040
01:24:54,750 --> 01:24:52,749
it was the weirdest thing like the

2041
01:24:57,270 --> 01:24:54,760
family had like eight kids well they all

2042
01:24:58,709 --> 01:24:57,280
had different accents so like what that

2043
01:25:00,719 --> 01:24:58,719
doesn't make any sense like did you grow

2044
01:25:01,859 --> 01:25:00,729
up in a different place I think it was

2045
01:25:03,719 --> 01:25:01,869
all just actors and they put him

2046
01:25:05,189 --> 01:25:03,729
together and said they were a family and

2047
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:05,199
they're really just dysfunctional and

2048
01:25:10,319 --> 01:25:07,210
just like the Alaskan bush people

2049
01:25:12,029 --> 01:25:10,329
it might have been but I don't have to

2050
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:12,039
look it up but man I didn't have a show

2051
01:25:17,549 --> 01:25:14,110
just like that like this is [\h__\h]

2052
01:25:19,770 --> 01:25:17,559
terrible TV why did I spend two days two

2053
01:25:23,129 --> 01:25:19,780
full days watching every episode in jibt

2054
01:25:27,180 --> 01:25:23,139
I had to I'm not smarter nor do I know

2055
01:25:28,350 --> 01:25:27,190
how to homestead man that was awesome

2056
01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:28,360
will do that was a really good episode

2057
01:25:31,140 --> 01:25:29,440
man

2058
01:25:34,770 --> 01:25:31,150
hey don't forget to check us out on a

2059
01:25:36,690 --> 01:25:34,780
UFO garage PC comm I've got some goodies

2060
01:25:38,460 --> 01:25:36,700
on there for you guys you can check out

2061
01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:38,470
all of our episodes you can check out

2062
01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:40,510
our intro if you're if you're a new

2063
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:42,490
listener you can listen to the intro to

2064
01:25:48,690 --> 01:25:45,010
our episodes and you know find out what

2065
01:25:50,970 --> 01:25:48,700
we're all about also UFO con 2020 oh

2066
01:25:54,660 --> 01:25:50,980
yeah all of our California listeners

2067
01:25:58,410 --> 01:25:54,670
check that out go to UFO Con 2020 calm

2068
01:26:00,450 --> 01:25:58,420
and uh yeah yeah get your tickets and

2069
01:26:01,830 --> 01:26:00,460
come out and say hi to us hell yeah

2070
01:26:04,380 --> 01:26:01,840
that'll be sook

2071
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:04,390
I'm gonna send max to NASA send max to

2072
01:26:08,970 --> 01:26:06,490
NASA dude yeah we need some donations

2073
01:26:10,620 --> 01:26:08,980
for max and and also I still want to

2074
01:26:12,780 --> 01:26:10,630
find like a little charity around here

2075
01:26:14,820 --> 01:26:12,790
for Christmastime maybe it's some kids

2076
01:26:16,620 --> 01:26:14,830
some toys yeah so if you guys want to

2077
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:16,630
donate and help us out with that cuz I

2078
01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:18,130
mean it's gonna be a bummer when we show

2079
01:26:23,070 --> 01:26:19,450
up to these kids houses and we're like

2080
01:26:28,290 --> 01:26:23,080
um so sorry we don't have any toys for

2081
01:26:29,490 --> 01:26:28,300
you but uh but here's a magic trick and

2082
01:26:33,660 --> 01:26:29,500
they're like we pretend to take their

2083
01:26:35,220 --> 01:26:33,670
nose off and it's like our thumb yeah

2084
01:26:36,810 --> 01:26:35,230
dude so I mean we'd like to do some

2085
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:36,820
Christmas donation stuff cuz if not I

2086
01:26:45,480 --> 01:26:38,650
mean they're getting 40 bucks for me and

2087
01:26:47,910 --> 01:26:45,490
in 40 bucks for Ben yeah but yeah that

2088
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:47,920
was an awesome episode yeah check out

2089
01:26:56,340 --> 01:26:51,810
the website you'll folk on what else oh

2090
01:26:58,380 --> 01:26:56,350
we need to get Lorien on we need to

2091
01:27:00,600 --> 01:26:58,390
schedule her to see you as well yes we

2092
01:27:02,220 --> 01:27:00,610
got to do that yeah I do that don't

2093
01:27:04,290 --> 01:27:02,230
forget to check out Phoenix shaving in

2094
01:27:08,460 --> 01:27:04,300
Phoenix shaving calm go see what does

2095
01:27:10,110 --> 01:27:08,470
Zach going on over there and uh cuz you

2096
01:27:12,330 --> 01:27:10,120
got some like Christmas stuff coming out

2097
01:27:18,630 --> 01:27:12,340
some Christmas in Sweden I'm not gonna

2098
01:27:20,820 --> 01:27:18,640
ply him cuz Christmas yeah abduction 51

2099
01:27:22,830 --> 01:27:20,830
calm go check out their gear those are

2100
01:27:25,620 --> 01:27:22,840
our our brothers from across the pond

2101
01:27:27,900 --> 01:27:25,630
and yeah man I mean who subscribe

2102
01:27:30,270 --> 01:27:27,910
subscribe to us on YouTube yeah yeah if

2103
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:30,280
you uh listen on YouTube I know we got

2104
01:27:35,220 --> 01:27:32,320
like what like I'm like 90-something

2105
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:35,230
members now on the on the UFO garage

2106
01:27:40,650 --> 01:27:37,810
podcast group so if every single one of

2107
01:27:42,330 --> 01:27:40,660
you guys goes and just hits the

2108
01:27:43,649 --> 01:27:42,340
subscribe button really quick I mean

2109
01:27:46,470 --> 01:27:43,659
don't even need an account to do that

2110
01:27:48,270 --> 01:27:46,480
you just go click Subscribe do you I

2111
01:27:51,660 --> 01:27:48,280
thought you did no I don't think so say

2112
01:27:53,879 --> 01:27:51,670
I never made an account ok think so even

2113
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:53,889
if you did I mean how many times do you

2114
01:27:57,750 --> 01:27:56,050
put your email on something today right

2115
01:27:59,220 --> 01:27:57,760
and it doesn't mean anything

2116
01:28:01,979 --> 01:27:59,230
yeah I mean this is kind of one of those

2117
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:01,989
things and if you do now you can just go

2118
01:28:06,300 --> 01:28:03,730
talk [\h__\h] to people right in the

2119
01:28:09,089 --> 01:28:06,310
comments and that's like I mean I don't

2120
01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:09,099
write but I definitely enjoy reading

2121
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:11,110
them so go talk [\h__\h] to people in the

2122
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:12,130
comments

2123
01:28:16,459 --> 01:28:14,080
sign up and so I can go read them and

2124
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:16,469
don't forget to subscribe to us on on

2125
01:28:20,490 --> 01:28:19,090
Facebook and wherever you listen to us

2126
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:20,500
you know whether it be Spotify

2127
01:28:26,220 --> 01:28:23,650
iHeartRadio whatever shoot us a little

2128
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:26,230
like maybe send us a little comment on

2129
01:28:31,859 --> 01:28:29,050
the bottom even if it's like you guys

2130
01:28:34,350 --> 01:28:31,869
sound like farts on the radio that's

2131
01:28:36,810 --> 01:28:34,360
cool too like you know all the love out

2132
01:28:39,959 --> 01:28:36,820
of love manages it just helps us helps

2133
01:28:42,750 --> 01:28:39,969
us climb those those charts yeah and our

2134
01:28:45,870 --> 01:28:42,760
ratings on iTunes podcast - those help

2135
01:28:47,850 --> 01:28:45,880
our stuff show up yeah yeah we're trying

2136
01:28:50,459 --> 01:28:47,860
to get more lessons than Led Zeppelin

2137
01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:50,469
radio so if you guys could help us get

2138
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:52,000
more listeners than Led Zeppelin radio

2139
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:52,960
that would be awesome

2140
01:28:57,060 --> 01:28:55,449
that's gonna be too hard nah dude I mean

2141
01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:57,070
they're only just known as the pinnacle

2142
01:29:00,000 --> 01:28:58,090
of rock and roll

2143
01:29:04,109 --> 01:29:00,010
I've never heard of them never heard of

2144
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:04,119
those guys it's these chicks from

2145
01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:06,489
England Oh got it

2146
01:29:11,550 --> 01:29:09,760
yeah no but uh yeah guys uh I think it's